Need advice

I'm very new to this game. I'm very into discretion. I can't afford a bad experience. What are some things to look for besides a single review to tell if a provider is legit? If a girl sends you pics if she is part of law enforcement?

With new providers with little to no reviews, there is no guarantee. You may have to take one for the team. The Hobby is he Wild Wild West. Risks vary depending on if you're looking for Indys, AMP girls, Backpage girls, or Street/Chatline girls. Sending a picture doesn't necessarily mean that a provider is LE.

Some Independent providers want references so that may limit your options. If you're looking to avoid drama and maintain discretion, then as a newbie, it's advisable to stay away from Backpage and the street scene.

I'm very new to this game. I'm very into discretion. I can't afford a bad experience. What are some things to look for besides a single review to tell if a provider is legit? If a girl sends you pics if she is part of law enforcement? Originally Posted by Piggy88

The "other " forum is probably not the best place (but niether is the rest of this board lol) for advice that involves using the big head when the little one is drinking up all the blood!

Here is my advice based on experience, and stories from others on this board, people I personally know (some of whom have been busted) and other sources in general..

If its a sting, you WILL get popped for something 90% of the time if you so much as make contact with the girl on the street. If its an incall or indy scenario like you described, and you show up, enter a room and engage in ANY discussion, your odds are about the same. As far as I have heard, LE will do pretty much anything a normal provider would do except let you touch them. On the street 100% of the time, the girl will NOT get in your car, but direct you to drive around behind the building and she will meet you there. I used to work next door to a building DPD used 2-3 times a month for 3 three years to do these type stings. I saw the MO they have first hand and watched hundreds of dumbasses who couldnt control themselves ignore EVERY red flag in the hobby book. Several of us used to sit in the parking lot and eat lunch watching the show, laughing our asses of at how some of these guys just jumped in the boat.

THE NUMBER ONE THING to keep you safe is a clear head and trusting your gut/hobby sense. With experience you will start to understand "the force" better and learn what is good/bad and act accordingly. There are plenty of guys who hobby for decades with no troubles. These guys also know when to walk away from something thats too good to be true or smells like shit despite the rose colored appearances.

Some good advice here. I'll add my few bullet points, acquired from 20+ years of largely incident-free hobbying:

Stay off the streets. Studios are safer, but the least dangerous option will always be a well-reviewed independent.

Get a hobby phone. Google Voice is becoming an increasingly popular option, although there appear to be quirks that you need to work around. Whatever you do, don't call from home, office or personal cell.

Don't use the office equipment for hobbying. Many a career was ruined by thinking no one is watching.

Protect your identity at every turn. This is difficult to do as a newbie, and you may have to get a little personal when first getting established, but be stingy with your personal information. It has been at least a decade since I shared anything more with a provider other than my first name. Everything else is hobby phone, hobby handle, hobby email address.

I'm sure I've missed some important details, but others can fill in the blanks.

What are some things to look for besides a single review to tell if a provider is legit? If a girl sends you pics if she is part of law enforcement? Originally Posted by Piggy88

Research, research, research. If your really concerned about being busted:

-- Never see a provider with only one review. Look for ladies with multiple reviews by well-known hobbiests.

-- Stick with eccie "verified providers" and P411 providers. Best bet is choose ladies who are on both.

If you follow these two tenets, your risk of seeing law enforcement is minimal. Actually, if you follow these two tenets, your chances of a positive experience is maximized, too.

How do I get to "Chatline?"

I'm very new to this game. I'm very into discretion. I can't afford a bad experience. What are some things to look for besides a single review to tell if a provider is legit? If a girl sends you pics if she is part of law enforcement? Originally Posted by Piggy88

You hit it right on the head - this is a "game". And remember that ladies, LE, and other hobbyists are playing it. It's all a "game".

Thanks for the great advice

Do not do an outcall for your first hobby experience.
You might want to break ur cherryy with an asian massage place, less risk overall and you can get more reviews.
Do not try SW's until you are ready for rough and risky.
Plan your entry and exit just like you were committing any other crime, in other words cross your T's and dot your I's and be sure you have a plan just in case you get pinched or in any other trouble.

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