Deconstructing the NATO Expansion Lie of the Russians

Let's discuss the Russian propaganda regarding NATO expansion, which never made it into any treaties or written agreements.

For those of you who believe Russia, show your cards and explain how Russia is correct.

For those who don't believe Russia, what do you point to that shows why their argument is bullshit? My cards are above. Pole holes as you feel needed.

I keep showing you the CARDS. You refuse to accept the truth. But that’s no suprise.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...nap-story.html

Memos, documents etc

NATO and Baker lied, people died

What you're saying is acknowledged by my position and immaterial.

Your documents establish the verbal record that never made it into the final agreement

Bam, can you answer two questions?


How does deconstructing NATO benefit Russia?


Why would we want to benefit Russia?

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/05...ld-not-enlarge

Needs repeated

https://x.com/derrickevans4wv/status...555747718?s=42

Bam, can you answer two questions?


How does deconstructing NATO benefit Russia?


Why would we want to benefit Russia? Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

PM Mr Gristle and have him explain what he meant by saying “deconstructing the NATO lie”.

You can do better, Bam. Try again. 12 steps behind Ona here

You can do better, Bam. Try again. 12 steps behind Ona here Originally Posted by HDGristle

No I’m not. NATO lied, people died. Then the US did a regime change in the Ukraine. Putin didn’t have a choice. You’re wrong, I’m right. Continue on with your twaddle.

Even Gorby disagreed with you. As did Yeltsin. Show us the written agreement that backs up your point. Not the readouts of the preamble. Look at it with a contemporaneous understanding of who controlled what at the time.

Even Gorby disagreed with you. As did Yeltsin. Show us the written agreement that backs up your point. Not the readouts of the preamble. Look at it with a contemporaneous understanding of who controlled what at the time. Originally Posted by HDGristle

One last time Mr Gristle, listen to Professor Sachs. He knows more than you.

https://x.com/steigerworld/status/18...543282549?s=42

If you think NATO and the US have been trustworthy, you’re naive. But I already knew that. CYA

Guys think NATO is evil, but keep forgetting that the united states is the ONLY COUNTRY, EVER, IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF NATO to activate and mobilize the united forces.


That happened after September 11th 2001.
You know, when Europe stood strong with us after the biggest terrorist attack on the country in recorded history?


But yea comrade. NATO is bad.

One last time Mr Gristle, listen to Professor Sachs. He knows more than you.

https://x.com/steigerworld/status/18...543282549?s=42

If you think NATO and the US have been trustworthy, you’re naive. But I already knew that. CYA Originally Posted by bambino

Got it. You keep pointing to Sachs without addressing the verifiable reality that no written signed agreement exists.

Even Nigel Farage disagrees with you

Appreciate the bump

What you're saying is acknowledged by my position and immaterial.

Your documents establish the verbal record that never made it into the final agreement Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/05...ld-not-enlarge Originally Posted by HDGristle

your liberal thinktank actually confirms Russia had concerns about NATO expansion. the fact that no formal agreement was ever signed means nothing considering how Baker and others involved went out of their way to make these assurances.and the US did make such assurances.


NATO's involvement is regional conflicts like Kosovo after German reunification created distrust of NATO by Russia.


that was cited in your liberal thinktank "opinion" and like all liberal thinktanks it's always the same thing isn't it?


"Russia EVIL, NATO GOOD!"


Russia is not Evil nor are they good. same as NATO.

I'm aware that Russia had concerns. Not relevant to their obligations to project the sovereignty of Ukraine and violation thereof as NATO expansion wasn't built into the agreements and was abandoned as the deal was worked out.

Follow the breadcrumbs, Waco. We can point to quite a bit on this. Especially once you consider where the lines were drawn and what was actually agreed to. Gorby's own words.