Trump administration lawyers tie themselves in knots trying to defend trans military ban to judge

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2714009.html

‘You're going to get rid of all these very qualified people who the military has spent millions of dollars into training specialized jobs for no other reason than they have had gender dysphoria or they transition,’ the judge summarized
I've found the Trump Admin's position hilarious and depressing. How do you think the judge will rule?
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You're going to get rid of all these very qualified people who the military has spent millions of dollars into training specialized jobs for no other reason than they have had gender dysphoria or they transition,’ the judge summarized
Yes, your honor. That’s exactly what we’re going to do, for the good of the country and every enlisted man who’d be required to fight beside an individual with mental disorders. The military is no place for those of weak mind or body.
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Isn't it every enlisted man AND woman? Or are women not allowed to serve either in your military.

I loved this part btw

Judge Reyes similarly pressed the government to explain the Pentagon's concerns about transgender soldiers facing a higher risk of suicidal ideation, saying the government fundamentally misunderstood the studies that were cited to defend the policy. At one point in the hearing, she considered ordering the attorneys to read the studies, which the attorneys admitted they had never read.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judg...y?id=119708856
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Sure, women who can get through BCT and AIT using the same standards as men can serve in a limited capacity.
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Limited capacity?

I don't suggest digging deeper. Let's leave it there
Jacuzzme's Avatar
Afraid of the truth?
HDGristle's Avatar
Nah, just recognize we don't need the lawyers to fumble trying to defend misogyny, too

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  • Devo
  • 03-13-2025, 08:40 PM
So, we take a male soldier and give him roids to make a softer weaker soldier?

Fucking ADUH.

Bud Light tranny leading an out of ammo bayonet charge?

Umm no.
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  • Devo
  • 03-13-2025, 08:44 PM
Limited capacity?

I don't suggest digging deeper. Let's leave it there Originally Posted by HDGristle
Agreed, technicians, medics, my friends daughter installed a fuse adapter during the Gulf War, once the proper fuse was specd, she'd install the adapter before it rolled out to the jet to fit the correct fuse.

Front lines?

No, but it freed up a MALE HUMAN BEING to do harder jobs.
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IMO women shouldn’t be in MOSs that involve shooting and/or being shot at by rifles and/or sidearms.
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Luckily, neither of you get to make these decisions

But I do love the energy. You're showing more than the Trump admin has in defending a losing battle
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Any woman in the armed forces is ten times the man of a guy who sits from the sidelines and says women shouldn't be in the armed forces.


Sheesh.
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This is about a transgender ban. Let's not waste any more time on the twaddle

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fed...ry-policy-post

Even the DUI Hire's old bosses aren't really back him up on this in the usual way. Pretty cut and dry reporting.

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Luckily, neither of you get to make these decisions

But I do love the energy. You're showing more than the Trump admin has in defending a losing battle Originally Posted by HDGristle
It’s actually unfortunate. The people who decide make political decisions and have no idea what women do to an infantry or like unit, full of 20something alpha boys with testosterone squirting out of their ears. I’m pretty confident that Hegseth, being a legitimate pipe hitter, is well aware and will act accordingly. Even he is subject to the pushback truth telling brings, hopefully he will be man enough to resist it, for the good of the country and those who serve it.
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It’s actually unfortunate. The people who decide make political decisions and have no idea what women do to an infantry or like unit, full of 20something alpha boys with testosterone squirting out of their ears. I’m pretty confident that Hegseth, being a legitimate pipe hitter, is well aware and will act accordingly. Even he is subject to the pushback truth telling brings, hopefully he will be man enough to resist it, for the good of the country and those who serve it. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme



Jazz, what do you think happens to women in the armed forces?
I'll give you a hint; they aren't there for 'companionship'.


What do you think happens with gay men in the armed forces?
I'll give you a hint; they aren't there for 'companionship', either.


Unless, the baseline for you is that soldiers, a bunch of 20something alpha boys with testosterone squirting out of their ears, is that they just can't help themselves and take advantage of the closest woman they can whenever they get the urge?


Why's it so unreasonable to expect that people can do the same job as anyone else, so long as they are physically fit and mentally able to do so? Who fucking cares what junk you have in the trunk. If you do the job, good.

Anything less, and you may as well just drop the facade and say women should get back in the kitchen and get me a beer, or something.




Oh, and if you think women in the armed forces suffer higher sexual assault than other women, well yes. That's because all the 20something alpha boys with testosterone squirting out of their ears can't keep it in their pants and sexual assault their fellow soldiers.