Transgender troops in the military - NOT GOING AWAY!

Hunker down fellas! The TRANNIES are not going quietly into that good night.

While your heads explode, consider that every illegal hate-based attack on American institutions will be challenged in court.

The laws of this land are clear. And they're NOT written by Pete Hegseth or his lord god BooFoo.

Thanks to ALL military members for their service.


https://www.cbs42.com/news/national/...-the-military/


Another federal judge blocks Trump policy banning transgender troops in the military
by: GENE JOHNSON, Associated Press

TACOMA, Wash. (AP) — A U.S. judge in Washington state has blocked enforcement of President Donald Trump’s order banning transgender people from serving in the military, the second nationwide injunction against the policy in as many weeks.

The order Thursday from U.S. District Court Judge Benjamin Settle in Tacoma came in a case brought by several long-serving transgender military members who say the ban is insulting and discriminatory, and that their firing would cause lasting damage to their careers and reputations.

In his 65-page ruling, Settle — an appointee of former President George W. Bush and a former captain in the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General Corps — said the administration offered no explanation as to why transgender troops, who have been able to serve openly over the past four years with no evidence of problems, should suddenly be banned.

“The government’s arguments are not persuasive, and it is not an especially close question on this record,” Settle wrote. “The government’s unrelenting reliance on deference to military judgment is unjustified in the absence of any evidence supporting ‘the military’s’ new judgment reflected in the Military Ban.”

U.S. District Judge Ana Reyes in Washington, D.C., similarly issued an order blocking the policy last week but then put her own ruling temporarily on hold pending the government’s appeal. The U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia late Thursday told the parties that it would consider putting the ruling into effect if “any action occurs that negatively impacts” transgender service members.

In a more limited ruling on Monday, a judge in New Jersey barred the Air Force from removing two transgender men, saying they showed their separation would cause lasting damage to their careers and reputations that no monetary settlement could repair.


Trump signed an executive order Jan. 27 that claims the sexual identity of transgender service members “conflicts with a soldier’s commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle, even in one’s personal life” and is harmful to military readiness.

In response, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth issued a policy that presumptively disqualifies transgender people from military service.

“They can do the right number of pullups. They can do the right amount of pushups. They can shoot straight,” Sasha Buchert, an attorney with the civil rights law firm Lambda Legal, said after arguments Monday in Tacoma. “Yet, they’re being told they have to leave the military simply because of who they are.”

Those challenging the policy and Trump’s executive order in Tacoma include Gender Justice League, which counts transgender troops among its members, and several transgender members of the military. Among them is U.S. Navy Cmdr. Emily “Hawking” Shilling, a 42-year-old woman who has served for more than 19 years, including 60 missions as a combat aviator in Iraq and Afghanistan.


In his ruling, Settle highlighted her case.

“There is no claim and no evidence that she is now, or ever was, a detriment to her unit’s cohesion, or to the military’s lethality or readiness, or that she is mentally or physically unable to continue her service,” he wrote. “There is no claim and no evidence that Shilling herself is dishonest or selfish, or that she lacks humility or integrity. Yet absent an injunction, she will be promptly discharged solely because she is transgender.”

During arguments Monday, Justice Department lawyer Jason Lynch insisted that the president was entitled to deference in military affairs and suggested the service ban was not as broad as the plaintiffs had suggested.

The judge peppered Lynch with questions, noting that the government had offered no evidence that allowing transgender troops to serve openly had caused any problems for military readiness.


Thousands of transgender people serve in the military, but they represent less than 1% of the total number of active-duty service members.

In 2016, a Defense Department policy permitted transgender people to serve openly in the military. During Trump’s first term in the White House, the Republican issued a directive to ban transgender service members, with an exception for some of those who had already started transitioning under more lenient rules that were in effect during the Obama administration. The Supreme Court allowed that ban to take effect. President Joe Biden, a Democrat, scrapped it when he took office.

The rules imposed by Hegseth include no such exceptions.

Military service is not a right. Never has been and never will be. When the Supreme Court this bullshit down, why don't you take a six month vacation.

Military service is not a right. Never has been and never will be. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

Where in the OP is the word "right?" Read the story, Schwartzer. You won't find it anywhere in there. Military service isn't the issue here. It's the discriminatory and unjustified ban imposed by DUI hire Pete Hegseth and his Department of Offense. That's why the order was blocked.

When the Supreme Court this bullshit down, why don't you take a six month vacation. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

A couple of weeks ago, Trump signed an executive order declaring English the official language of this country.

I recommend you use it to explain what the heck you're trying to say. Gracias!

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Where in the OP is the word "right?" Read the story, Schwartzer. You won't find it anywhere in there. Military service isn't the issue here. It's the discriminatory and unjustified ban imposed by DUI hire Pete Hegseth and his Department of Offense. That's why the order was blocked Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Is that a joke? The military discriminates against TONS of people, as they should. The morbidly obese can’t join, or a diabetic, or people with a missing limb, or if they’re simply too dumb. A mental case who thinks they’re the opposite sex is, to any clear thinking person, also disqualifying.

Doesn’t matter, this will be overturned, because the rules are made by the commander in chief not some rando judge in Tacoma Washington.

Another way to go . . .

Why not form a battalion of only Transgendered troops?

They would all train together and be assigned as a unit . . together.

Lets see where that goes.

Is that a joke? The military discriminates against TONS of people, as they should. The morbidly obese can’t join, or a diabetic, or people with a missing limb, or if they’re simply too dumb. A mental case who thinks they’re the opposite sex is, to any clear thinking person, also disqualifying.

Doesn’t matter, this will be overturned, because the rules are made by the commander in chief not some rando judge in Tacoma Washington. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

And it will be challenged again. The hateful ravings of the insecure fear mongers will not stop the advance of society, no matter how much you want it to.

The terms for "discrimination" you listed are all conditions that would prevent one from carrying out their duties as a service member.

Did you even READ the OP?

Another way to go . . .

Why not form a battalion of only Transgendered troops?

They would all train together and be assigned as a unit . . together.

Lets see where that goes. Originally Posted by ICU 812

They did that during WWII with the off-white soldiers, right?

Why did they stop it?

I think there is a fitness for duty and/or readiness issue when it comes to transgender troops.

But again, I would encourage President Trump and Sec Def Hegseth to create a completely trans battalion of infantry and see where that stacks up when compared to a battalion staffed with non-trans infantry.

That might settle the issue once and for all.

Don't see an hate in that or fear in that, just a fair comparison.

They did that during WWII with the off-white soldiers, right?

Why did they stop it? Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Not sure what you are getting at.

The US military was segregated by race at the direction of President Woodrow Willison, an early progressive Democrat, back in the early 20th Century. That racially segrigated Army and Navy was what FDR (another progressive Democrat) inherited for WW-II.

Please clarify your quoted remarks.

I think there is a fitness for duty and/or readiness issue when it comes to transgender troops. Originally Posted by ICU 812

It’s a medical issue. You don’t enlist people with flagrant mental health problems.

It’s a medical issue. You don’t enlist people with flagrant mental health problems. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Yeah . ..I get that.

So if they put together a whole battalion of trans troops, we all will see just how mentally unstable they are under the normal stress of normqal field exercises .

I would think that just the yelling in bootcamp would do it.

That special should put to rest this nonsense.

It’s a medical issue. You don’t enlist people with flagrant mental health problems. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Let’s see your medical credentials, buddy.

You keep railing against the sanity of transgendered individuals yet aren’t qualified to diagnose health issue. Unless you are, of course, in which case I will gladly study your research.

How do we know you’re not talking about member(s) of this forum?

Not sure what you are getting at.

The US military was segregated by race at the direction of President Woodrow Willison, an early progressive Democrat, back in the early 20th Century. That racially segrigated Army and Navy was what FDR (another progressive Democrat) inherited for WW-II.

Please clarify your quoted remarks. Originally Posted by ICU 812

You don’t need clarification. They segregated troops by race and gender up through WWII and by gender afterward.

What clarification do you want?

H-I-S-T-O-R-E-E

Yeah . ..I get that.

So if they put together a whole battalion of trans troops, we all will see just how mentally unstable they are under the normal stress of normqal field exercises .

I would think that just the yelling in bootcamp would do it.

That special should put to rest this nonsense. Originally Posted by ICU 812

Actually the Transgender join mostly to have the government foot their medical bills for transgender surgery.