budget bill: Musk vs. Trump

"Musk criticized the centerpiece of Trump’s legislative agenda, a significant fracture in a partnership that was forged during last year’s campaign and was poised to reshape American politics and the federal government."


Musk said it is a "massive spending bill” that increases the federal deficit and “undermines the work” of his Department of Government Efficiency, known as DOGE. “I think a bill can be big or it could be beautiful,” Musk said. “But I don’t know if it could be both.”

Musk’s opposition to the Bill is 180degrees opposite from that of most Democrats .

The Democrats simply want the Bill to fail. They will gladly take help from any Republicans in achieving that goal.

Musk’s opposition to the Bill is 180degrees opposite from that of most Democrats .

The Democrats simply want the Bill to fail. They will gladly take help from any Republicans in achieving that goal. Originally Posted by Jacky S

Sort of like that bipartisan immigration bill that daddy twat killed. Amusing how the right is always shocked when the other side uses the same tactics they do.

Musk’s opposition to the Bill is 180degrees opposite from that of most Democrats .

The Democrats simply want the Bill to fail. They will gladly take help from any Republicans in achieving that goal. Originally Posted by Jacky S

There is nothing about Democrats in the thread title or the original post. Virtually every post you make is bashing Democrats, whether it is part of the topic or not.

Sort of like that bipartisan immigration bill that daddy twat killed. Amusing how the right is always shocked when the other side uses the same tactics they do. Originally Posted by TechPapi

Musk, Rand Paul, and a few other Conservatives need to freshen up on the definition of “useful idiot”.

Voting against the Bill because it does not cut enough falls right into the hands of the Democrats.

Musk, Rand Paul, and a few other Conservatives need to freshen up on the definition of “useful idiot”.

Voting against the Bill because it does not cut enough falls right into the hands of the Democrats. Originally Posted by Jacky S

How about what's best for the people of this country, not just the MAGA ideologues who view everything as a struggle with the opposing party?

This is a no win attitude Jacky.

Ready to govern?

Musk, Rand Paul, and a few other Conservatives need to freshen up on the definition of “useful idiot”.

Voting against the Bill because it does not cut enough falls right into the hands of the Democrats. Originally Posted by Jacky S

not cut enough ?
doesn't it increase the budget deficit ?


Musk said it is a "massive spending bill” that increases the federal deficit and “undermines the work” of his Department of Government Efficiency



It adds over $3 trillion to the nation’s debt


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Despite all the Republican noise and infighting over the nation’s debt and the deficits they continue to create, today’s Republican Party has long since exchanged what’s left of any“economic policy” for the incoherent economic whims of Trump. Consequently, Republican lawmakers aren’t being asked to pass legislation. They’re being asked to participate in a loyalty test.

Does anyone actually like this bill?

Trump had to strong arm several house republicans to get this bill passed. I’m sure he’ll have to do the same in the senate.

Fiscal conservatives don’t like that it will add to the deficit but won’t advocate for tax increases. They would rather massively cut healthcare spending instead.

Democrats don’t want any cuts to healthcare at all but they won’t discuss tax increases either because they believe it would be bad politically.

Our nation’s demographics tells us that we’re growing older and we have unfunded healthcare and retirement needs that no one wants to talk about.

Meanwhile we’re paying almost a trillion dollars a year in interest payments on the national debt.

The “Big Beautiful Bill” does nothing to help address any of these problems.

At some point the fiscal republican hawks are going to have to get in bed with the moderate democrats and come up with both government cuts across the board in all departments (excluding social security which is funded through payroll taxes) and come up with a modest tax increase across all income levels while removing as many tax loopholes as possible.

And if they can get everyone to vote for it everyone will have some political cover. It’s the only way we’ll get anything done in Washington.