TDS - Trump Dementia Symptoms

After four years of MAGA howling about President Biden's mental acuity, four years in which they totally forgot about the covfefe they were drinking (with two hands) every morning before and after his first trainwreck of a term, comes the unsurprising news from an acclaimed psychologist and former Johns Hopkins professor.

"Trump doesn't care" - that's what some of y'all keep posting.

I think the more appropriate ending to that is "Trump doesn't care because Trump doesn't know who TF he is anymore."

Time to break out the 25th Amemendment - that is if anyone in the Cabinet gives a fuck about the country.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2025/0...ite-house.html

Donald Trump hit with disturbing cognitive claims: ‘Weekend at Bernie’s White House’
Updated: Jul. 01, 2025, 5:42 a.m.|Published: Jun. 30, 2025, 5:00 a.m.

Donald Trump’s second term as president of the United States could turn into “Weekend at Bernie’s White House” an acclaimed psychologist and former Johns Hopkins professor warned.

Dr. John Gartner made the disturbing claims during a recent appearance on “The Dean Obeidallah Show,” revealing that he believes the president is suffering from dementia and will “fall of a cliff” cognitively before the end of his term.

“Here’s the thing, will he become impaired enough that they need to invoke the 25th amendment? Yes,” Gartner said. “Will they invoke the 25th amendment? No.

“We are going to have a Weekend at Bernie’s White House,” he added. “They’re going to be wheeling him around, but don’t think that he can’t get into trouble. He will. It’s going to go from a farce to tragedy or from tragedy to farce, but it is going to get more and more absurd.”

Gartner told Obeidallah he is convinced that Trump has dementia.

“Basically, what we see are the classic signs of dementia, which is gross deterioration from someone’s baseline and function,” he said. “That’s very important because one of the areas that we can most physically see this is in his verbal productions. And, if you go back and look at film from the 1980s, he actually was extremely articulate. He was still a jerk, but he was able to express himself in polished paragraphs, and now he really has trouble completing a thought and that is a huge deterioration. His vocabulary has deteriorated, but also he has started to show very specific signs of phonemic paraphasia for example where he routinely can’t say an English word so he substitutes a non-word that is easier to pronounce that sounds like it.”

Gartner claimed there are “dozens of examples” of Trump doing this.

“It’s not a big thing, but it is a diagnostic sign, and this is why it is important to have doctors evaluating these things,” he said. “People don’t do that. Yeah, you and I, we have memory problems, we are getting older. We forget things. That’s not the same as starting to use non-English words and to substitute for English words because we have trouble forming the whole word, but he has trouble forming a whole concept.”

Gartner, who has previously made it clear he is no fan of Trump, was then asked about the possibility of having a president with dementia.

“Well, we are starting to see that,” he said. “One thing is we are starting to see people cover for him. Everyone is acting like it’s perfectly normal when he says these completely crazy things. Like, remember when some reporter asked him about Harvard and academic freedom. He went on to say, ‘Well in Harlem, the people really love me. I got a lot of the Black vote, but they don’t like what’s happening at Harvard either, that’s why they are protesting in Harlem.’ I mean he got Harlem, because they sound alike and maybe the reporter who asked him is Black, but he is not just mishearing the word like, ‘Oh, I thought you said Harlem.’ He goes back to the people in Harlem are actually protesting what’s happening at Harvard. It’s like how he does the weave. You know, the weave was a brilliant way he had for explaining his thought disorder.

“It’s not a weave, OK,” Gartner continued. “It’s really an example of what we call tangential thought, where he goes off on loose associations. So, Harvard sounds like Harlem. Harlem now he gets into a whole thing about Black voters. Then he somehow comes back he remembers it did have something to do with Harvard so now he has to circle back to Harvard but now the people in Harlem are protesting what is happening in Harvard. So, he gums it together in this sort of confabulated story to kind of weave his loose associations together and then we all just, you see the reporters looking really confused, and then people just go on and ask another question as if we didn’t just witness an example of thought disorder.”

Obeidallah asked Gartner how he believes the media should cover it.

“By covering it for one thing,” he said. “They’re not covering it at all. I mean look before the election we had an enormous amount of trouble getting them to address Trump’s cognitive decline. They were very focused on Biden’s and that’s a whole other story, and they ignored Trump’s. And now that he is president, and he’s intimidating all of these media outlets, they’re terrified of him. And so they’re much even more afraid to make any reference to his cognitive decline. So, even when it’s in a kind of 3D grotesque way, right in front of our eyes, it’s just everyone’s turning a blind eye to it.

“The thing is that to a doctor or to anyone who has ever had a relative with dementia, this is very familiar because these ideas are sort of adjacent to each other in your associative track so yeah, the Declaration of Independence, that was about the Revolutionary War, OK early American wars, the Civil War was an early American war, but the thing is that it sort of becomes a soup where you become disoriented in time,” Gartner added. “So all these things kind of blend together, you know, Putin is the head of Russia, Russia was our ally in World War II so Putin fought in World War II so why are people so mad at Putin, he fought in World War II? He was our ally. And he kept saying Putin fought as if he was a veteran of World War II. So, in other words, it’s crazy. It’s what we call a confabulation which is when patients with dementia have gaps in their memory, they have loose associations, and they do a weave. They do a weave, but they weave these loose associations into a made-up story that isn’t reality.”

He told Obeidallah he does believe that things have gotten worse for Trump from the time he was campaigning to now, but he claimed the president is able to cover it up better while in the White House.

“When he was campaigning and doing these long rallies, every single day he’s standing on the podium talking for an hour and a half, and he’s just babbling for half the time,” he said. I” mean, there was so much material, and then for a while when he became president it kind of went dark. You weren’t seeing as much thought disorder material. And people kept saying, ‘Oh, I thought you said it was dementia, what’s happening?’ And you are like, ‘Well, they’re hiding him.’

“But now, you see, it’s starting to come out,” he continued. “You don’t think that the Declaration of Independence started the Civil War if you are a compos mentis adult.”

Gartner claimed that he was not just basing his accusation on cognitive tells.

“He was very coordinated, and now he really does have trouble getting up the stairs,” he said. “He does trip and fall. It’s not just a gotcha thing, ‘Oh he tripped on the stars.’ No, his gait is slow. He is falling.”

Gartner also claimed that the way the president swings his right leg is a concern.

“I predicted before the election that he would probably fall off the cliff before the end of his term,” Gartner said. “And at the rate he is deteriorating, you know … we’ll see. But the point is that it’s going to get worse. That’s my prediction. All these signs that we have been talking about are going to get more pronounced and I don’t know, are we going to keep normalizing and normalizing and normalizing it? I keep thinking now there’s no bottom to our normalization that he could just be sort of babbling and everyone would say, ‘Oh, you know, that’s Trump,’ or something.”

It is obvious, and explains so much.

But now....I fear this thread will generate even more MAGAt defensive fury and denial than my BBB thread. Whew. This could be one hell of a day!

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Great Gas Lighting.
Adam or Jerry could not have done better.

I do not dispute your expertise on gaslighting.

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Trump's mind is rotting more and more by the day. Fortunately for him, it doesn't matter to his MAGA sheep. As long as he can speak, even when the words make no fucking sense in context, those words are still coming from the chosen one to them... the funny thing is that Trump doesn't even drink so he can't even blame his word salads on having one drink too many. Haha

Great Gas Lighting.
Adam or Jerry could not have done better. Originally Posted by Jacky S

Care to comment on the story?

If he is truly showing signs of dementia how long until the wife and kids try to declare him mentally incapacitated? Are we talking about a Britney Spears situation here?

... Crikey! ... A GREAT article! ... Thanks for the laugh...

... The straws are there, mate --- keep reachin' ...

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If he is truly showing signs of dementia how long until the wife and kids try to declare him mentally incapacitated? Are we talking about a Britney Spears situation here? Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Well they all stand to benefit bigly if they do. And if we know one thing about the Trumps is that they are the embodiment of greed.
Melania is probably all dewy at the thought of getting that blithering boob out of the picture.

Junior and Eric? LOL!

I don't really think it will come to that, but I watched his speech to close NATO the other day and holy shit. Biden couldn't get his words out. Trump can't keep them in. Just fucking embarassing.

He A-Blitherated himself. and he was reading it...

remember valued posters Gartner is the same biased quack who said "Biden is only aging ... "


BAHHAHHAAAA


Dr. John Gartner on a tale of two brains: “Biden’s brain is aging. Trump’s brain is dementing”

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-...-is-dementing/




BAHHAHAAAA

If he is truly showing signs of dementia how long until the wife and kids try to declare him mentally incapacitated? Are we talking about a Britney Spears situation here? Originally Posted by txdot-guy

It is in their best financial interest to just be quiet and for him to hold that position as long as possible. They'll never say shit just like Biden's family never did.

Trump has very little push back domestically as POTUS to execute his agendas. That family can do whatever crooked shit they want to print cash with crypto, mobile phones or any other bullshit scam with no fear of accountability. Why give that up just because daddy is old and losing his damn mind? Trump has always been eccentric. Just blame it on that.

JD Vance is a snake though. That's the guy Trump needs to worry about and not his family if it ever comes down to actually going after Trump for his questionable mental competency to be POTUS IMO. I wouldn't trust Vance for one second if I was DJT. A guy who once compared me to Hitler and had a best friend who is a transgender and now, he's down with MAGA bullshit? Nah, that's just an extremely ambitious dude who will step on my neck in two seconds if he has a chance to get ahead... of course Trump does not think that way because he is a dipshit narcissist and JD is a great bullshitter and ass kisser.

It is in their best financial interest to just be quiet and for him to hold that position as long as possible. They'll never say shit just like Biden's family never did.

Trump has very little push back domestically as POTUS to execute his agendas. That family can do whatever crooked shit they want to print cash with crypto, mobile phones or any other bullshit scam with no fear of accountability. Why give that up just because daddy is old and losing his damn mind? Trump has always been eccentric. Just blame it on that.

JD Vance is a snake though. That's the guy Trump needs to worry about and not his family if it ever comes down to actually going after Trump for his questionable mental competency to be POTUS IMO. I wouldn't trust Vance for one second if I was DJT. A guy who once compared me to Hitler and had a best friend who is a transgender and now, he's down with MAGA bullshit? Nah, that's just an extremely ambitious dude who will step on my neck in two seconds if he has a chance to get ahead... of course Trump does not think that way because he is a dipshit narcissist and JD is a great bullshitter and ass kisser. Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

^^ I agree 1000%. Vance is a sneaky, out for himself and power hungry PoS. So is Trump, but Vance will probably make a try before Trump drops dead in his diaper. What I'm not sure of is if the TCS crew will take out Vance somehow when he does...if diaper Don is still drawing breath I think they might.