how providers treat us

do you guys ever feel that the providers treat you different based on how you look even though your paying for it.

was hobbying for 2 years now and also have lost 100 lbs during these 2 years. when i first started it seemed like the providers were trying to get me out as fast as possible

(EX: had a instance with a VERY VERY liked provider give me 30 mins instead of the hour i paid for)

but since ive lost the weight (also put on some muscle) i feel like i get more freebies (stay longer with them)

EX: Now: ive had some providers that let me stay longer then the time slot / given me more shots etc

have any of yall experienced this?

also how do you guys groom/take care of yourself pre visit?

This is a no brainer. There will always be YMMV moments. The better your overall “package” is, (Body/Genes/Hygiene/Charisma), will always net you better or cheaper experiences. Also, even an average guy with a little game and charisma can net much better than average results when stars align.

If you were a male escort, you would like to have sex with a hot chick over an ugly our overweight chick!!

I'm sure these ladies do not enjoy a three hundred pound plus man on top of them..

What it is SUPPOSE to be is, you pay, you play, regardless of your looks, H/W, ect. However, that is not the case. I believe when providers start out, they try hard to please no matter who the paying customer is, but it is always going to be better if you are a gentleman and have excellent personal hygiene.

After a very short time, providers want guys who are tall, handsome (according to their taste) and have a tight body with 6 pack abs in order to get the best mileage out of a session. But, about 99.9% of the guys who do P4P, MAY have a quality or two of that nature, but most do not even have one of those characteristics. I mean, think about it, would a guy who looks like that be contacting or paying for providers? Ladies would be wanting to pay them!

Remember, you are paying providers to be nice and tell you that you are fantastic BCD, it is called roleplay, some can do it, most tho are mentally checked out dead fucks counting the seconds and cannot wait until you leave and do not even try to hide it because they will get protected by other providers and white knights if you decide to review or provide intel on your experience. There is a reason that they all like doggy and RCG, so they do not have to see your face.

Because of their own GPS, guys that coddle providers saying it is totally acceptable to play the YMMV card while the clients cannot be YMMV on the donation price and other providers telling them to raise their rates and lower their service level, you have guys questioning whether or not they should continue to hobby.

I agree with all the above and OP, I’ve heard all the reasons why girls won’t do something with a guy, so I make sure my face is clean shaven (for daty), my nails are trimmed (for fiv), trim the front and back down there (for tuma & bls), have straight white teeth (for lfk dfk), shower before the session and I’m no Incredible Hulk, but do go to the gym a few times a week.(Do a lot of ab work). So yes, it does make a difference, I’ve gotten BBFS, Greek, extended time for free from some of the girls that I clicked with, not all of them though. if you take care of yourself, they’ll take care of you.

The weight is definitely a big deal. They don't like having a bunch of sweaty manboob all over them.

I have had more than one of them tell me how relieved they were when they saw me because I am not fat. They aren't robots after all. No different than how in my profession, I am more likely to do favors for people who are pleasant than people who are annoying, even though they are both paying me.

I'm 250 pounds but have several girls on rotation who let me fuck for free after three or four paid visits. 9/10 visits are great experiences on top of that. Just got that rizz I guess?

But yeah, if you have charisma then you can go a long way if you have other deficiencies.