Advice For New Gentlemen

i saw this question asked in a review and wanted to give an answer from a providers perspective.

since we can't reply in reviews i thought this would be the best place to respond..

One question for you guys.....I notice alot of providers asking for references or to be verified first. Can anyone help with this? Is there some website I need to be verified on? My concern is that, like many, I'm married and really need to keep this on the downlow. I don't want to have to use my cc to be verified.

How would one build references? I don't personally know people on the board, but hope to get to know others at least online and gain some trustworthy status to expand my horizons with other providers. Originally Posted by wideswing
as one person suggested, P411 is an excellent way to demonstrate to a girl that you are safe, reliable, and not associated with law enforcement. of course, there is the catch-22 of having to have received an "ok" from at least one other local provider.

as another person suggested, posting reviews on ECCIE of verified providers goes a long way with a lot of girls. there is a fair amount of crossover between ECCIE and P411 so you could quite easily advance your reputation by reviewing a provider who can also "ok" you.

it was also suggested that you build your reputation with BP girls, because as pointed out, many of them do not screen, and then use them as references.

i would advise against this.

you will find that many gentlemen here, as well as most of the providers, are very wary of girls who do not screen, as well as of the gentlemen who see those providers. if you come to be known as someone who visits with providers who do not screen you very well could find yourself blacklisted by the providers who do.

references can also be a tricky matter. i for one do not wish to have even other ECCIE verified providers know who i am visiting with and when. i certainly do not want a BP girl to know that either. some providers also feel that way or will only accept references from a few limited girls but not others.

unfortunately, not every provider is honest and trust worthy. in the end, this is a business. some girls are dependent upon it, some aren't. it is not uncommon for a less than reputable provider to attempt to make problems for the girl(s) she regards as competition. even worse, are the horror stories of providers attempting to extort or blackmail clients they know have families, spouses, or public notoriety when they begin seeing other girls.

i would advise against using references if discretion and confidentiality are important to you.

some providers when screening first time clients will request personal information such as full name, address, name and number of employer, or even a scan of your drivers license. some gentlemen are obviously wary of this. keep in mind however that a providers business is also built on her reputation and it only takes one violation of trust for her business to be ruined. speaking for myself again, i prefer knowing that a client (new or repeat) has a lot to lose. it helps to assure me that he is not going to be problematic.

if all of this is entirely new to you and not just ECCIE or P411, i would recommend you check out this link "advice for a good experience" which has a lot of great information for first timers http://beforeyoucome.blogspot.com/
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not for nothing but!!!! you could not fine a blog by a current or X female escort that supports your view. Bing that this was from a X male escort makes it very strange to read
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I am not a private person or married. If my work found out I did this, 90 % would say yea no surprise. I give all women who I pick as regulars my real name and real cell phone number. But I will never give any stranger my drivers license, work info, references, or any other personnel info. You never really know who you are dealing with or whose cell phones have been compromised.
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You forgot to remind the newbies to gather lube and porn.
Thanx Ms E. There's a lot of helpful stuff there. I for one would like to hear from some other providers too, especially their take on references. There seem to be a lot of different opinions out there.
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some providers when screening first time clients will request personal information such as full name, address, name and number of employer, or even a scan of your drivers license. some gentlemen are obviously wary of this. keep in mind however that a providers business is also built on her reputation and it only takes one violation of trust for her business to be ruined. speaking for myself again, i prefer knowing that a client (new or repeat) has a lot to lose. it helps to assure me that he is not going to be problematic. Originally Posted by ms_elizabeth
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yup! at least 1 great little nugget!!LOL!!...thanks Dis-elizabat
  • LynnT
  • 01-13-2012, 01:11 PM

, i prefer knowing that a client (new or repeat) has a lot to lose. it helps to assure me that he is not going to be problematic. Originally Posted by ms_elizabeth

Wow..



Ouch
unfortunately, not every provider is honest and trust worthy. in the end, this is a business. some girls are dependent upon it, some aren't. it is not uncommon for a less than reputable provider to attempt to make problems for the girl(s) she regards as competition. even worse, are the horror stories of providers attempting to extort or blackmail clients they know have families, spouses, or public notoriety when they begin seeing other girls.

i would advise against using references if discretion and confidentiality are important to you.

some providers when screening first time clients will request personal information such as full name, address, name and number of employer, or even a scan of your drivers license. some gentlemen are obviously wary of this. keep in mind however that a providers business is also built on her reputation and it only takes one violation of trust for her business to be ruined. speaking for myself again, i prefer knowing that a client (new or repeat) has a lot to lose. it helps to assure me that he is not going to be problematic.
Originally Posted by ms_elizabeth
Damn - I'm really not sure where to start with this post. Don't use references if discretion and confidentiality are important, but allow a provider to scan your driver's license knowing that her business is built on trust. I'll do this as soon as I can have a scan of her driver's license so that I also know that she has a lot to lose!

You have got to be fuckin kidding me!! Would you like to come over for Sunday dinner also! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Damn - I'm really not sure where to start with this post. Don't use references if discretion and confidentiality are important, but allow a provider to scan your driver's license knowing that her business is built on trust. I'll do this as soon as I can have a scan of her driver's license so that I also know that she has a lot to lose! Originally Posted by Perryay
Perry,

I think this is just a corollary of the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction!!

Wow..



Ouch Originally Posted by LynnT
says the woman having all the problems and posting stuff like this http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=338946 and this http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=331130

wow, indeed...
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  • cnym
  • 01-13-2012, 04:17 PM
[QUOTE=Perryay;2038677]Damn - I'm really not sure where to start with this post. Don't use references if discretion and confidentiality are important, but allow a provider to scan your driver's license knowing that her business is built on trust. I'll do this as soon as I can have a scan of her driver's license so that I also know that she has a lot to lose!

You have got to be fuckin kidding me!! Would you like to come over for Sunday dinner also! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!



During a session, I prefer to have more pleasant things on my mind than "how much I have to lose".

I think this is just a corollary of the doctrine of Mutual Assured Destruction!! Originally Posted by jimxbeam
I don't think John von Neumann could have foreseen that his doctrine of M.A.D. would have far-reaching applicability in this hobby.

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  • Doove
  • 01-13-2012, 04:55 PM
A provider can insist on seeing your driver's license, tax return, even your social security card if that's what she damn well wants to do. It's her business and if she's satisfied with her income while adhering to whatever rules she wants to use, then who the hell are you all to give her any shit about it?
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  • cnym
  • 01-13-2012, 04:58 PM
A provider can insist on seeing your driver's license, tax return, even your social security card if that's what she damn well wants to do. It's her business and if she's satisfied with her income while adhering to whatever rules she wants to use, then who the hell are you all to give her any shit about it? Originally Posted by Doove