p411

I'm thinking about taking the step up to p411. All I know about it is that you can get oks from providers. Would I still have to go through giving references to providers as I do now once I get enough oks, basically meaning it wouldn't even be worth paying for it? Can I get accepted with just references bc I will never give out my work into to anyone in this hobby. Are there many local BR providers on it that don't use ECCIE? Any info would be appreciated.

Nope, you'd give your P411 ID and that's that.

Some ladies will no longer accept references, or will only accept references from reputable providers.

Here is a thread on the MS board about this very subject. Check it out and I hope you find this helpful.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=391946

Two thumbs up for P411.

I use p411 as a screening TOOL...I still contact at least one of the providers who okayed....you can never be too careful!

good luck babe!

P411 is awesome and a huge help. Especially when on tour or a last minute app.

Would I still have to go through giving references to providers as I do now once I get enough oks, basically meaning it wouldn't even be worth paying for it? Originally Posted by jl11

This is totally dependent on the providers screening. Usually I send two ladies info as a ref but if your in a situation where you want to screen fast (especially if your on business and not in your local area) while allieviating her screening concerns having p411 oks might save her the step of having to contact the refs. On average in my exploits only half of the ladies I contacted via p411 contacted a ref. And especially touring ladies with more unbalanced schedules when arriving may consider having a certain amount of local refs sufficient.

Some ladies look at contacting a ref as a potential "twatswat" (better rate deals from ref...."why didn't you call me, I would give you a banging rate and a better time no risk." "Cancel with her, and come see me.") and follow their own intuition on verifying you.

Can I get accepted with just references bc I will never give out my work into to anyone in this hobby. Originally Posted by jl11

You can get accepted with just references, but if your particular ref doesn't remember you..........(here's a few tricks to help her remember you specifically at this link.....

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=1862054&postcount=7 ) she will definitely not deny giving you the ok and it may pad her memory. Using the ref only method makes for much longer email and explanations possibly to pad your refs memory.

Another thing I like about p411 is if you don't hobby at times for extended periods (civilian relationship, money woes, brief hobby retirement, etc) , you can always resupply current refs or see a provider who would only require membership and not refs to start hobbying safely again. She would see that you had a track record of other ladies you saw periodically with approved oks.

Thanks for the replies. Any providers here that use it that would want to see me this coming month let me know.

Love the p411. So much easier for providers to get your references. I recommend it.

I love using p411 for my guys. So much easier, and no one has to give too much information. I only call the providers that have ok'd a guy if he's only got 2 or 3 oks, but if you've got 10+oks from reputable providers I bet you're good to go.

Yeah it definetly sounds a lot simpler than trying to catch providers on short notice for references on their schedule and mine and all of that.

I would not Hobby with out it!

+1

Would I still have to go through giving references to providers as I do now once I get enough oks... Originally Posted by jl11

You "shouldn't" have to worry about giving ref's, assuming they are already on your account. The lady can simply view them herself.

Can I get accepted with just references bc I will never give out my work into to anyone in this hobby. Originally Posted by jl11

This would depend upon the lady's screening techiques. For instance, some lady's may require a certain # of vouches w/out any work info while others may accept your vouches & still want work info.... You would have to carefully read her website information in order to figure out where she stands on this topic.

I use p411 as a screening TOOL...I still contact at least one of the providers who okayed....you can never be too careful!

good luck babe! Originally Posted by DallasRain

Exactly, it's a great tool for screening but not the only thing most girls use. I love p411 been using it for several years and it's been great