Do they realize

I want to say upfront, I know there are a LOT of great ladies on here that truly understand the value of measuring their words. Elena and Jackie immediately come to mind. So I want to point out that I am not at ALL talking about these fine ladies.

But I have noticed lately an influx of ladies that don't seem to understand that when they post on here, everything they say is an ad. It portrays them to the other members of the board, both good and bad. And a lady may be wonderful behind closed doors, but if she's cantankerous, argumentative and impolite here, it can't help but reflect unfavorably upon her, and thereby negatively impact her business. Even if they feel this isn't their target market, I can't imagine they would want to alienate themselves from any potential good customers by their actions.

I'm not saying they don't have a right to defend themselves, point out inaccuracies or even call "Bullshit" when she's being improperly reviewed. But I would think it best if they did their best to handle those issues as politely as possible!

And please don't tell me I'm sexist. I'm not. Look, I'm in sales. I frequently have to give talks to various associations and membership groups where there are a combination of customers, former customers and prospects. Some of them love my product/company/me, some are ambivalent and some can't stand us/me. I've had people call me out during presentations. Sometimes it's a misunderstanding, sometimes they've been duly wronged and many times they're flat out wrong. But if I stood up there and insulted the guy, told him he's an idiot, or even that he was "WRONG", I'd be shooting myself in the foot! I have to address the situation as politely as I can, being honest, and if need be taking it offline. But most importantly, it provides prospects and current customers a chance to see me handle "issues" professionally and cultivate MORE trust. But if I start arguing with him, and anyone that intercedes, I'm done for. I see it the same way here. Just simple business sense. Don't blow up at some one in front of a "room" full of prospects if you have any hope to get their business.

I only create this post, not to slam the girls, but hopefully to help. To maybe get them to go "Hey, I never thought of it that way before".

Just as some guys won't see a lady because of how she acts or speaks on a board, it goes both ways baby.

If no respect is shown through words, none will be shown through actions.

Elena,

Again a measured response! And I wouldn't disagree that many of the girls look at how guys post before deciding to see them. But I only look at the girls because it may cost them money! I can think of a handful of girls that, on various boards, have severely hurt their income potential by alienating a lot of the guys by not taking the "higher road".

I kind of liken it to arguing with the wife. Even if I know I'm right, I have to way the cost of proving my point. I might win the battle but lose the war! Sometimes it's just better to say "Yes Dear" and move on, none the worse for it. But some people just can't let anything go. They fight every point, fight every post and, even if they may be wonderful in person, they end up giving off a truly negative persona because all the potential customer sees is post after post of negativity.

I can think of two ladies in the last week that have had no previous input onto this board and start right off jumping on someone to defend themselves. Again, they have every right to do so. But it's HOW they did so that makes you go "REALLY? OK THEN" and walk away. Someone like yourself, that has a lot of posts and a lot of interaction on many topics wouldn't necessarily give off that same feeling to most guys because we can look at the body of your contributions (or just your body!! ) and see it as part of a whole. But in these cases it IS the whole, and whole reflects badly upon them.

But some people just can't let anything go. They fight every point, fight every post and, even if they may be wonderful in person... Originally Posted by Sens55

Hey, I resemble that remark! heh heh How did you know I'm wonderful in person? Who snitched?

The one thing I'd like to ad to this thread is that everything that you say in PRIVATE...in a PM (PRIVATE MASSAGE)...is PUBLIC. If the person you PM'd takes what you said the wrong way and gets mad, they'll snip out the parts that offended them and show the world. They'll leave out anything that would show the context of the conversation or anything that they might have said that was offensive.

The good news for the ladies is that these types of forums generally take their sides. There are plenty of white knights and so few female board members. If you're a guy, you're on your own. My advice for both parties is to have your beef in public, if you must, because it is all public anyway.

Man I hate re-reading a post and seeing that I spelled a word incorrectly. In my previous post I meant "weigh".

I type these things so fast and don't always have time to re-read them before I have to jump off.

Could not agree more, in this time it is all about customer service and a saying that i live by is "Perception is Reality" Meaning that what each of us perceives, right or wrong, is our reality and it is difficult to change that.

Man I hate re-reading a post and seeing that I spelled a word incorrectly. In my previous post I meant "weigh".

I type these things so fast and don't always have time to re-read them before I have to jump off. Originally Posted by Sens55

No problem Sens. I didn't even notice it because YOU'RE post was WEIGH TO long for my attention span.