Tell me about Mitt Romney

The only thing I've seen the Left say about Romney is stuff about a legal tax return and a dog that was riding on the top of the car (got the story on that and it's nothing like what everyone said.)


My honest question for the masses... What exactly has Romney done that makes him so evil? I don't like the guy because he is exactly like all the other cookie cutter white business men that doesn't really have any idea what it's like to be in the lower 50%. I don't have any hard core evidence that he's anything other than what he's always claimed. I've seen proof positive that Obama or his staff are directly linked to all sorts of folks that don't belong in a free society... sooooo Give me something on Romney that ties him or his friends or beliefs to extremest, or unamerican whatever.

I've seen all the stuff moveon.org has put out and it's pretty laughable. I'd think ANYONE left or right, would agree. Give me some true dirt and not straw grasping. If we got some real truth on him that makes him bad, you'd have everyone actually talking about it and not fighting. The fighting and name calling makes it hard to read through the actual facts of a thread.

his budget raises taxes on 98% of taxpayers

YOU.

his budget cuts federal spending and states that allocate $16 to feed their hungry will feel the brunt of the cuts.

thats YOU again.

His budget adds between 16-25% to Obamas already bloated debt ... ya like more debt?

just for starters

his budget raises taxes on 98% of taxpayers

YOU.

his budget cuts federal spending and states that allocate $16 to feed their hungry will feel the brunt of the cuts.

thats YOU again.

His budget adds between 16-25% to Obamas already bloated debt ... ya like more debt?

just for starters Originally Posted by CJ7

Can you back up anything you said with credible sources? If his budget raises taxes on 98% of taxpayers (as you claim) and if his budget cuts federal spending at the same time, how does his budget add between 16-25% to Obama's debt (as you claim). This just doesn't add up. This makes no sense at all.

Mitt Romney's income tax rate would be less than 1% under the Romney-Ryan budget.
TPC & Brookings: Romney's tax plan would raise taxes on 95% of Americans, including the entire middle class, making the average middle class family pay $2,000 more -- while giving a millionaire another tax cut of nearly $100,000 on top of the Bush tax cuts (separately worth about $150,000).
TPC, CAP: Romney's plan would raise taxes on 18 million families to help pay for massive tax cuts for himself, including $4.5 million in income taxes and $112 million in estate taxes.
NEC: As a House Republican, Congressman Ryan pushed to raise taxes on 25 million working families by an average of $1,000 apiece, while giving a tax cut of $160,000 to those making over a million.
NEC: In fact, as a Republican in Congress, he's threatening to raise taxes on 98% of Americans, or almost 120 million working families, by an average of $1,600 unless the richest 2% get $1 trillion more in tax cuts.
JEC: The Romney-Ryan budget would give a household making more than a million dollars a tax cut of almost $300,000, but raise taxes for a typical middle class family by $1,400.
Contrary to claims of Congressman Ryan being a deficit hawk, he voted for the Bush policies driving today's deficits -- including the wasteful Bush tax cuts for the richest 2%. (In contrast, the Congressional Progressive Caucus's People's Budget would eliminate the deficit and balance the budget within ten years.) SENIORS

The Romney-Ryan budget would end the Medicare guarantee of coverage and replace it with privatized vouchers or coupons -- increasing out-of-pocket costs and pushing many seniors into the poorhouse. And despite GOP claims, their plan would force current seniors to pay more now.
The Romney-Ryan budget creates a fast track to cut Social Security, as well as the Social Security Administration.
Congressman Ryan authored a plan to privatize Social Security and turn it over to Wall Street, which would have required $2.4 trillion in additional costs in just the first 10 years. HOME FRONT FUNDING

The Romney-Ryan budget would cost us up to 4 million jobs or more in the next two years alone.
The Romney-Ryan budget would deeply cut our investments in our home front funding, including education by 20%, and let the child tax credit expire, pushing many children back into poverty.
In fact, the Romney-Ryan budget puts America on the Path To Poverty -- throwing vulnerable kids off Medicaid, laying off teachers, and eventually ending all federal law enforcement, air traffic safety, and protection of our food and water.




adding to the debt


http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/23/news...cits/index.htm




http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/its-romney-ryan-plan




guess why he wont talk about it?

Yeah, those are some real credible unbiased sources that you cite. LOL. Sounds like the typical Democratic talking points to me.

In reality both Romney and Obama are proposing tax cuts. Romney's cuts are more broad and in fact do effect the top 2% along with everyone else. He has stated that his plan still allows that 2% to pay the same proportion of the tax burden. Obama wants to cut taxes on only the middle class, and raise taxes on the top 2%. This would increase their tax burden which is already over 50%. Remember that the bottom 50% pay no taxes - and for the first time in history over 50% of Americans are receiving some form of government handout.

In my opinion the difference is this: Obama wants to punish the rich and successful and continue his class warfare in America. Romney wants to see a more balanced contribution across the board and at the same time reduce spending to something we can actually handle as a country.

Obama has FAILED as a president and needs to be fired. Romney is not the best alternative, but he is better than nothing. 40+ months of 8% unemployment, and a pathetic growth rate shows that Obama has no clue how to run a country. His lack of experience in running anything has now put generations in trouble of becoming the next Greece or Spain. If I had performed this poorly at any job I have held, I would have been fired - now it is our turn to fire the guy we hired 4 years ago who has failed to do what he promised to do.

Yeah, those are some real credible unbiased sources that you cite. LOL. Sounds like the typical Democratic talking points to me. Originally Posted by NiceGuy53

why not dispute those sources?

should be easy enough to disprove "talking points"

you have the floor


have at these talking points too


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3658

Under Obama my fireman fathers pension was cut by 25%. How that happens I have no idea. Under Obama the very sick and handicapped get 16$ a month to feed themselves. That's right this moment. Under Obama those same sick and handicapped folks were denied help at the hunt county hospital because the extreme agonizing pain they wre in was not life threatening. I was there. That's a quote.

I'd still take a Romney tax increase over an Obama ANYTHING.

Under Obama my fireman fathers pension was cut by 25%. How that happens I have no idea. Under Obama the very sick and handicapped get 16$ a month to feed themselves. That's right this moment. Under Obama those same sick and handicapped folks were denied help at the hunt county hospital because the extreme agonizing pain they wre in was not life threatening. I was there. That's a quote.

I'd still take a Romney tax increase over an Obama ANYTHING. Originally Posted by LovingKayla

certainly your choice


under Obama?

the cuts youre talking about are state not federal cuts


read the cbpp link and if you think pensions and state aid suffer now, you aint seen nothin' yet

just sayin'

Under Obama my fireman fathers pension was cut by 25%. How that happens I have no idea. Under Obama the very sick and handicapped get 16$ a month to feed themselves. That's right this moment. Under Obama those same sick and handicapped folks were denied help at the hunt county hospital because the extreme agonizing pain they wre in was not life threatening. I was there. That's a quote.

I'd still take a Romney tax increase over an Obama ANYTHING. Originally Posted by LovingKayla

This ain't the first time, nor the second, where you griped about Obama while pointing to examples that the President has absolutely nothing to do with.

why not dispute those sources?

should be easy enough to disprove "talking points"

you have the floor


have at these talking points too


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3658 Originally Posted by CJ7

Your sources are not credible. They are from liberal leaning blogs and from the Obama campaign. You made the claim that Romney's budget plan would raise taxes on 98% of taxpayers and add significantly to the national debt. And then you cited the above mentioned "sources" when asked to back up your claims. You have proved nothing. To my knowledge, Romney has not yet released a comprehensive budget proposal yet. His new running mate has though. The Romney-Ryan budget is still a work in progress. So my question to you is how can you make these claims when there has been no Romney-Ryan budget plan released yet?

Your sources are not credible. They are from liberal leaning blogs and from the Obama campaign. You made the claim that Romney's budget plan would raise taxes on 98% of taxpayers and add significantly to the national debt. And then you cited the above mentioned "sources" when asked to back up your claims. You have proved nothing. To my knowledge, Romney has not yet released a comprehensive budget proposal yet. His new running mate has though. The Romney-Ryan budget is still a work in progress. So my question to you is how can you make these claims when there has been no Romney-Ryan budget plan released yet? Originally Posted by NiceGuy53

credible as in CBO? what do you call credible ?

there are no credible sources RIGHT NOW because why?

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=527511

How did we get to this point in our history. I served 67-71. My father served 42-46. While my father was landing on desolate islands in the Pacific and being subjected to Japanese suicide attacks his parents at home lived with rationing and long working hours. While I was serving this country was at war with itself. The elimination of Jim Crow laws, the campaign for civil rights, and the antiwar movement was a difficult time in our history. My most vivid memories of the US at this time was photos of the students shot down at Kent State and the police dogs and fire hoses used on citizens demanding equality. What a wonderful example of our great democracy at work. When people say they wish things were like they used to be I always wonder what they are talking about. The 70's with high unemployment and the prime rate at 11% when Gerald Ford left office? Alternate day fueling do to OIL EMBARGO's in 73 and 79. Watergate, Iran Contra, funding Iraq's War against Iran, supporting the Afghan Islamic efforts against the Soviet Union? The Plus 7% unemployment during the first 6 years of the Reagan Administration? The Dot.com bubble? The Commodities Futures Modernization Act that allowed the big banks to become international casinos? So, we start two wars, lower taxes, keep interest rates artifically low, allow finanical institutions to leverage their assets to fatal levels, and what did we get....an international financial collapse that has yet to run its course....but we do have the lowest tax rates in over 50 years and we have people marching with signs that state Taxed Enough Already.....whatever. We've turned into a nation of ME ME ME ME......great. It will only take 1 or 2 decades before we repeat the armed conflict between labor and corporations in the late 1800s and early 1900s. We sure feel good with NO DRAFT.....bring it back and all this talk of WAR WAR WAR will find growing opposition just as it did in the 60's. All those ME ME ME Tea Party supporters will be scrambling to find an exemption for themselves and their kids. Just watch.

credible as in CBO? what do you call credible ?

there are no credible sources RIGHT NOW because why?

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=527511 Originally Posted by CJ7

Did you even bother reading my post? Obviously not. Why are you bringing the CBO into this? There has to be a comprehensive budget plan submitted before the CBO will score it. Why don't you hop back on that A10 Warthog that you think landed and parked on a carrier. LOL.

Did you even bother reading my post? Obviously not. Why are you bringing the CBO into this? There has to be a comprehensive budget plan submitted before the CBO will score it. Why don't you hop back on that A10 Warthog that you think landed and parked on a carrier. LOL. Originally Posted by NiceGuy53

I just said that .. not much gets by you does it


the A10 wasnt parked on the carrier after it landed on the carrier ???

now thats a good trick !!!!

the Viking ... sheesh