Russian Nuclear Submarine in Gulf of Mexico

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According to press reports, a Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine recently traveled undetected in the Gulf of Mexico on a month-long patrol. This submarine activity reportedly occurred in June and July, simultaneously with incursions by Russian strategic bombers into restricted U.S. airspace.

Red October redux? John Cornyn demands answers from Pentagon on Russian sub in Gulf of Mexico (UPDATED)


This story hasn’t gotten much traction in the mainstream media, but Texas Sen. John Cornyn has been on it all week: Russian submarine activity in the Gulf of Mexico.
After receiving no satisfaction to earlier comments to the media, Cornyn wrote a letter today to Admiral Jonathan Greenert, the Pentagon’s Chief of Naval Operations, demanding answers.
“The submarine patrol, taken together with the air incursions, seems to represent a more aggressive and destabilizing Russian military stance that could pose risks to our national security,” Cornyn wrote. “This is especially troubling given the drastic defense cuts sought by President Obama, which include reductions in funding for antisubmarine defense systems.”
The story has received relatively little attention since appearing in the conservative media outlet The Washington Free Beacon. According to the original report by longtime military correspondent Bill Gertz:
A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.
It is only the second time since 2009 that a Russian attack submarine has patrolled so close to U.S. shores.
The stealth underwater incursion in the Gulf took place at the same time Russian strategic bombers made incursions into restricted U.S. airspace near Alaska and California in June and July, and highlights a growing military assertiveness by Moscow.
Cornyn, a San Antonio Republican who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, says the report is “especially troubling given the drastic defense cuts sought by President Obama, which include reductions in funding for antisubmarine defense systems.”
A Pentagon spokesman, Navy Lieutenant Commander John Fage, dismissed Gertz’s report.
“We are aware of the reporting but we see nothing to indicate that it is true,” Fage told the Houston Chronicle.
Here’s the complete text of Sen. Cornyn’s letter:

Dear Admiral Greenert:
According to press reports, a Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine recently traveled undetected in the Gulf of Mexico on a month-long patrol. This submarine activity reportedly occurred in June and July, simultaneously with incursions by Russian strategic bombers into restricted U.S. airspace.
If these reports are accurate, the repercussions are serious. It is my understanding that an Akula-class submarine can be armed with an array of weapons, including torpedoes and long-range cruise missiles, capable of destroying both U.S. nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers.
The submarine patrol, taken together with the air incursions, seems to represent a more aggressive and destabilizing Russian military stance that could pose risks to our national security. This is especially troubling given the drastic defense cuts sought by President Obama, which include reductions in funding for antisubmarine defense systems.
In light of the gravity of this situation, I request a detailed explanation of the facts surrounding these reports. Thank you for your faithful service to our nation, your dedication to our Armed Forces, and your commitment to ensuring the welfare of our men and women in uniform and their families.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012...n-sub-in-gulf/
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  • CJ7
  • 08-17-2012, 06:19 PM
according to press reports?


allll righteeee then.

Im sure the Admiral responded in detail ..

Dear Sir.

The information you request is above your pay grade. The military doesnt release calssified information to Senators because of possible leaks that could pose a therat to the overall security of the country. Thank you for your query.

Now go fuck yourself.

Admiral Greenert.
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I'd expect Cornyn to reply:

Dear Admiral:

The people I represent pay your salary and fund your operation. We are above your pay grade. Respond with verifiable truth, and we will get along fine. Stonewall or lie to us, and you may find yourself swabbing decks.

Looking forward to your prompt reply,

Senator Cornyn
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I like Cornyn, he and Cruz will get along just fine.
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Next time the sub comes in, sinck it.
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  • CJ7
  • 08-17-2012, 07:13 PM
I'd expect Cornyn to reply:

Dear Admiral:

The people I represent pay your salary and fund your operation. We are above your pay grade. Respond with verifiable truth, and we will get along fine. Stonewall or lie to us, and you may find yourself swabbing decks.

Looking forward to your prompt reply,

Senator Cornyn Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Cronie needs to get clearence before he can be trusted with a bag of M&M's

anydody have an odds ratio on that?

a member of a group with a 10% approval rating wants classified intel?

want in one hand and shit in the other ... see which one fills up fastest.
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Cronie needs to get clearence before he can be trusted with a bag of M&M's

anydody have an odds ratio on that?

a member of a group with a 10% approval rating wants classified intel?

want in one hand and shit in the other ... see which one fills up fastest. Originally Posted by CJ7
You do realize that John Cornyn is a senator, right? The senate is controlled by your beloved Dimos. With Harry Reid in charge, I'm surprised they even get 10%.
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  • CJ7
  • 08-17-2012, 07:30 PM
You do realize that John Cornyn is a senator, right? The senate is controlled by your beloved Dimos. With Harry Reid in charge, I'm surprised they even get 10%. Originally Posted by joe bloe

I know more about Cronie than you can imagine ... too bad I cant tell you exactly how much on this board
I wonder how many times a US nuclear sub is around Russian territory...oh that's right, they're the bad guys???
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I wonder how many times a US nuclear sub is around Russian territory??? Originally Posted by vkmaster
For the inquiring mind : Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story Of American Submarine Espionage by Sherry Sontag

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1891620088/...SIN=1891620088
Simmer down.

Stop exaggerating.

All the former Russian allies, including on their border like Poland and Romania, are now in NATO and host our Army, Navy, and Marines all the time.

Our subs patrol next to Russian waters all the time.

They're gonna do likewise....it's called playing fair.

During the Cold War we used to maintain a SOSUS array of acustic detectors in the weeeeeeeee ocean depths that used to detect Soviet subs when they left port, and tracked them over various thresholds. I doubt we even maintained it.
Thanks I B, I just might check it out on Amazon!!!
Hey why don't all you paranoid ones get together and form your own Anti-Submarine Warfare squad and patrol around in the Gulf for the next time this happens.

Wouldn't that be a hoot.
I'm surprised the Russian sub didn't sink.
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Putin is just yanking Obama's chain. Why would he that? Because he can.