why is it so hard to get screened

I consider myself to be a great client .I am always polite , clean , descrite ,punctual, i call if time is not going right, a good tipper hell i even joined 411 and that hasnt helped once . My only downfall might be that i love the hobby and really only like to be with the 9 or higher and i am very busy at work and family. which means i love varity . I can not and do not want to bang the same gal for 10 sessions i prefer trying differnet ladies . My s/o conciders me high maintnence beacause i like thing done right the first time. Meaning no bs no back and forth no waisting of my time .i know the kind of gal i like(thin and under 35 )., and dont mind the price tag.BUT why do gals make you go through all that bs screening when they can look at your post on eccie which i think is the best. >>>>look at posts of the guy if they have multiple reviews over a long enough period of time i think they would be fine! i see the screen names enough i know if i see a post and they have all these screening requirments i wont ever be seen so why waste my time . Now i understand its for your safty but i can give you a long list of providers that if i was at there front door they would welcome me in but they wont remember me if another provider gives them a screen name ..... lets be honest how many of the providers actually answer thier phone ? i will answer for you not many .....so i give a list of providers ... champane brown ...she wouldnt remeber me from adam althought i saw her 3 times .....marlynn rose from dfw well if yu can track her down she might remeber ........other than that if i saw many gals more than once it was a fluck .... i have no problems seeing a gal more than once if they can hold on to the same phone number for more that a month ......
As to you girls that are punctual and dependable please reach out to me any agencys that are as well please reach out to me ....i have in the past had better luck with agencys but as to recent no luck at all !
thanks for the read

I'm sorry you are having bad luck. But screening is simply for safety. ours and YOURS as well. If we didn't screen things could bad at any moment. Looking at a guys posts and reviews are a great idea. But a review isn't the same. For multiple reasons.


1) they may be fake. Some girls never look at their reviews.
2) a review is from your perspective only. Not hers. Maybe in her mind things were different.

If you are on p411 send a request for an "ok" after you meet. That will help the screening on their. But even that isn't full proof. I saw a guy on there with 12 okays and it was one of the worst appts i have ever had. He didn't hurt me or arrest me. But he was a complete asshole the whole time.

And as far as girls remembering you, most should if its in a reasonable amount of time. And if they don't send them a message reminding them of the session.

I hope this helps make the process easier and you can find some girls that you both can have some serious fun

Great points by NJ. Contacting a provider in advance, asking her to be a ref and giving her info that would jog her memory will def help the ladies on both sides speed up the process. Might I also add that your board presence might also play into it. With not a lot of posts, most of them private & several mentions of extra high expectations... In your case (and this is rare) p411 oks wouldn't cut it. I'd want to personally speak to some of the ladies you've seen. I'm not saying that you are a bad person, but my cursory review of what I can read has you coming across as a guy who wants something thin & young to get your rocks off (that part is fine) but with out any concern for her feeling comfortable with you (that part is not ok). I get the impression (my opinion) that you think the hobby is akin to ordering a pizza. I'm not trying to bash you, but hey, you put it out there and so I'm giving you an honest answer of why you in particular are having difficulties where others aren't. You're a guy who likes it done right the first time, so start doing it right. Get with the program and I'm sure you will find great pleasure with the fine spinners SA has to offer.

The whole purpose of being screened is so that the Provider feels comfortable meeting you and having a session with you. Even when I was sitting at 30 reviews on this site, I have still been screened by Providers, I still have to provided my P411 info and also references. Sometimes the Providers have contacted my references and sometimes they have gone further and gone through my list of reviews and contacted those ladies, I had a couple of Providers contact the ladies that gave me OK's to see if I was an ok client.

The way I see it, if you want to see a New to You Provider, how difficult is it to copy and paste a previous PM with all the info and resend it?


For example (from a recent PM):

Hi, I'm Levi, (age), (race), (height), (weight), (hair color), (eye color) and I wear glasses. I work during the day so I normally make evening incall appointments, say at 6:30 to 7pm.

References with reviews (each review has links to their info):
LaylaCream (visiting provider) : http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=523503
DallaRain (visiting provider) : http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=519846
Cambree (visiting provider) : http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=506902
Liz4fun (local provider) : http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=426562

and you are more than welcomed to contact any of the ladies that I've reviewed if you choose to.

I will send you a PM from P411 account that way you have access to my info on there.

Levi
My Phone Number
My Hobby Email

Great points by NJ. Contacting a provider in advance, asking her to be a ref and giving her info that would jog her memory will def help the ladies on both sides speed up the process. Might I also add that your board presence might also play into it. With not a lot of posts, most of them private & several mentions of extra high expectations... In your case (and this is rare) p411 oks wouldn't cut it. I'd want to personally speak to some of the ladies you've seen. I'm not saying that you are a bad person, but my cursory review of what I can read has you coming across as a guy who wants something thin & young to get your rocks off (that part is fine) but with out any concern for her feeling comfortable with you (that part is not ok). I get the impression (my opinion) that you think the hobby is akin to ordering a pizza. I'm not trying to bash you, but hey, you put it out there and so I'm giving you an honest answer of why you in particular are having difficulties where others aren't. You're a guy who likes it done right the first time, so start doing it right. Get with the program and I'm sure you will find great pleasure with the fine spinners SA has to offer. Originally Posted by atxdream

You are not the only one with that opinion. Wow! I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after reading this. If a gentleman cares more about things being "easy" for him than he does about a provider feeling comfortable and safe with him then I sure as heck wouldn't want to see him.

For me, screening isn't ONLY for my safety but it's so I can feel more comfortable with the hobbyist I'm hoping to meet. A session is MUCH better when BOTH parties are comfortable. I agree with NJ...you can't just rely on posts and reviews. Reviews can be fake. And I always say "There are 3 sides to EVERY story. His, hers and the truth." It is better to me to speak with a couple of providers that has seen a hobbyist. That way if he is rude, or has bad hygiene or anything else that might be bad then I will know not to see him. THOSE are things hobbyists usually don't post about themselves on the board. And if you see as many providers as you say you do and at least 2 of them doesn't remember you...then maybe you should start doing something different. Maybe take ATX's advice and ask them if they can refer you the next time you want to see someone. I remember your handle...and I'm sure (if we met) I would remember you. Even if it took a few hints of what happened in that time.
I just feel like a hobbyist should be considerate of a provider's safety and her feeling comfortable. Just sayin...

It's rather difficult to decipher what your trying to say with all your words running together. But I'll try to decipher what I can make sense of. And give my input.

Every lady screens differently. It's now how you want to be screened. It's how she chooses to screen you. So if you want to see a certain lady, then you need to respect her screening requirements. And provide what she requires. Or simply move on and see someone else.
Bitching about a ladys screening and telling us that we should *just* look at your post and accept your post. Isn't going to cut it.

A guys post doesn't tell us what *ALL* we need to know to keep ourselves safe. Nor does your post, tell us that your the guy contacting the lady.
So if she requires your physical description, your age, cell and email. Then provide it to her. regardless if your on P411 and have OK's on there.
You provide ALL the screening the provider ask of you. (outside of not providing work or personal data such as SS# or DL).
But all other pertinent info IS important. As it will allow her to go to your ref. and confirm what you provided, is *accurate* and that said Ref. saw the hobbyist in question, and that yes, that guy is good to see, or no he's not.*

Something your posts will not ever relate to a provider.

I consider myself to be a great client .I am always polite , clean , descrite ,punctual, i call if time is not going right, a good tipper hell i even joined 411 and that hasnt helped once . My only downfall might be that i love the hobby and really only like to be with the 9 or higher and i am very busy at work and family. which means i love varity . I can not and do not want to bang the same gal for 10 sessions i prefer trying differnet ladies . My s/o conciders me high maintnence beacause i like thing done right the first time. Meaning no bs no back and forth no waisting of my time .i know the kind of gal i like(thin and under 35 )., and dont mind the price tag.BUT why do gals make you go through all that bs screening when they can look at your post on eccie which i think is the best. >>>>look at posts of the guy if they have multiple reviews over a long enough period of time i think they would be fine! i see the screen names enough i know if i see a post and they have all these screening requirments i wont ever be seen so why waste my time . Now i understand its for your safty but i can give you a long list of providers that if i was at there front door they would welcome me in but they wont remember me if another provider gives them a screen name ..... lets be honest how many of the providers actually answer thier phone ? i will answer for you not many .....so i give a list of providers ... champane brown ...she wouldnt remeber me from adam althought i saw her 3 times .....marlynn rose from dfw well if yu can track her down she might remeber ........other than that if i saw many gals more than once it was a fluck .... i have no problems seeing a gal more than once if they can hold on to the same phone number for more that a month ......
As to you girls that are punctual and dependable please reach out to me any agencys that are as well please reach out to me ....i have in the past had better luck with agencys but as to recent no luck at all !
thanks for the read Originally Posted by samars.man

Is this an example of a reverse threAD?

Is this an example of a reverse threAD? Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

...as for my post...yeah...

Nice template Levi. I always considered a template but for some reason I always go from scratch. I may adopt something based on your's, it's very good.

its for everyone's safety! .... and even now, screening on both sides is not what it should be!

I try to make a connection with the provider before I leave from our meeting and always follow up with them after the meeting by PM and ask if I can use them as a reference in the future. I do not have that much problems getting screened so far.

Is this an example of a reverse threAD? Originally Posted by JohnnyYanks

Ladies love it when gents volunteer themselves for the DNS list. Saves them.trouble later.

I may have been making a couple of screening mistakes. What is your opinion.

When I want to see a new lady and I send a pm, what I usually do is just list the last 4 people that I've seen and whether I've seen them multiple times.

My first issue is, I haven't really been asking the previous providers if it is ok to use them as a reference. So far it hasn't caused an issue but I want to keep protocol so I'm looking for input here.

Second issue is I haven't been putting contact info for the references, I probably should do this. See Levi's post above. I really like that format. Anything that would make it easier for the women to verify me, I'm sure that they get lots of requests and whatever makes it quicker and easier on them works for me. Any input would be appreciated.

Not all ladies require you to let them know that your using them as a ref. As that's *time* consuming for hobbyists.

Best thing to do, is to make sure when your BCD with said provider reference, that you ASK her IF she is vouch friendly. Meaning, will she vouch for you if another provider contacts her on your behalf??
If she verbalizes yes. Then all you need to do is to have the lady/ies you wish to meet. Is to contact your ref. via PM or email. And make sure those ladies you wish to meet. Provide links to her reviews/websites (to your ref). So your ref. knows that she is being contacted by a legit provider, for a vouch on your behalf.

Secondly, Do NOT disclose your references contact info. UNLESS your references tell you it's OKAY. A board handle/website or review link of your reference, is sufficient means of how the new lady you wish to meet, can contact your references.

I may have been making a couple of screening mistakes. What is your opinion.

When I want to see a new lady and I send a pm, what I usually do is just list the last 4 people that I've seen and whether I've seen them multiple times.

My first issue is, I haven't really been asking the previous providers if it is ok to use them as a reference. So far it hasn't caused an issue but I want to keep protocol so I'm looking for input here.

Second issue is I haven't been putting contact info for the references, I probably should do this. See Levi's post above. I really like that format. Anything that would make it easier for the women to verify me, I'm sure that they get lots of requests and whatever makes it quicker and easier on them works for me. Any input would be appreciated. Originally Posted by JG4DATY

I have heard several guys talk about how hard it is to get screened --- I have never had a single issue getting screened.

You just have to be willing to follow the ladies request for screening -- if I am not comfortable with what they are asking for I just move along, Since I have joined P411 and got a few OKs its even been easier,


I agree with the women feeling comfortable -- if they arent comfortable with me then they will be holding back and I dont want to get that vibe from them...... Especially in a session,

I have seen a couple of women that supposedly have insanly hard screening -- never had a single issue,