If you respect the women you see, why not use the system in a way that protects them, and gives them the dignity of having a defense, if they happen to get arrested, and they would like to take the charge to trial by jury? How can the mystery of what it is like to be with a particular lady, be such a big turn off if everybody knows that YMMV anyway? Are men's erections more dependent upon each others erotic revelations than the women they see?
Since there is nothing illegal about paying someone to have dinner with you, and what two consenting adults do in private once they have met and become friends is a private matter, it is a mandatory detailed sexual review system that makes escorts vulnerable to getting arrested, and guarantees they will be convicted.
The most shameful and Talibanish aspect of a sexual detail review system, such as this one, is that the men exploiting it are not the ones who are getting arrested for exercising bragging rights in a manner that puts the women at risk. Why is it necessary to sacrifice the women in such a manner? I would truly like to understand this.
Are the men who use these boards unable to get an erection for women without whetting each other's appetites? Is that why this is necessary?
- Deva Divine
- 10-11-2012, 08:17 AM
- Pink Floyd
- 10-11-2012, 09:23 AM
- kymberlane
- 10-11-2012, 09:55 AM
HUH? Im guessing you dont like the idea that the guys do reviews or the system. I dunno for sure but I thought this was a hooker review board, lol. I dont agree that the women are sacrificed, since they have chosen to be in the hobby, signed onto a site and became verified providers that requires them to agree to reviews, in which most beg for reviews in order to attract more clients. Free Will. If you dont want reviews, instill a no review policy. The risk is the individual persons problem. Not mine or yours.
And yes men think with their dicks!! Providers depend upon that, so the reviews for some are needed--regardless of how distasteful or risky. Otherwise rent aint gettn paid, and nails and hair aint gettn done lol
And yes men think with their dicks!! Providers depend upon that, so the reviews for some are needed--regardless of how distasteful or risky. Otherwise rent aint gettn paid, and nails and hair aint gettn done lol
- Deva Divine
- 10-11-2012, 10:23 AM
There is no way to prevent guys from posting reviews. The way I found out about these kinds of places was that somebody posted a review of me, and I didn't even know it. I had saved up my money and decided to take some time off from work. So I let my ad expire. But the business kept coming in and coming in and coming in. I couldn't figure out where it was coming from, because I had no ad. This went on for several weeks and I finally asked somebody how he found out about me. He said ASPD! I never even heard of it. He showed me the website and the review. I was shocked and amazed. While I appreciated the business, I was extremely anxious about my involuntary participation in a website that can serve as incriminating evidence, simply by virtue of the association. A website that prohibits people from posting discrete reviews and demands incriminating details be included in order to comply.
- bojulay
- 10-11-2012, 10:41 AM
There is another place that has no review or client posting board.
I think it's called Back Page or something. I don't think anyone ever
runs into any hassles using it.
Can I have some beer with my popcorn.
I think it's called Back Page or something. I don't think anyone ever
runs into any hassles using it.
Can I have some beer with my popcorn.
- Wakeup
- 10-11-2012, 10:58 AM
- Cpalmson
- 10-11-2012, 11:39 AM
Reviews benefit all providers whether they want to participate or not. Reviews ensure accuracy of information and quality of services. Even if you don't want a review, you still benefit because it gives gentleman choices. If you didn't want a review, the be upfront with you clients by stating a no review policy. 99% of guys will honor that.
- Pink Floyd
- 10-11-2012, 11:47 AM
- Deva Divine
- 10-11-2012, 02:40 PM
ignorance is no excuse
- JayceeRivers
- 10-11-2012, 02:57 PM
There is a option to advertise elsewhere and still communicate on eccie. This allots the ability to have a "No review" policy.
I find what works for me (or has mostly in the past) is discouraging reviews gently. I am confident in my services enough to believe that unless they are ridiculously cruel for no reason reviews wont be posted. Ideally most of the gentlemen I have seen respect my lack of desire to have reviews. Of course they understand I would be disinclined to enjoy their company again if a review cropped up.
Once in a great while one pops through. I cringe but understand the necessity and that overall the goal of the gentleman was no more than to "sing my praises" Usually a discussion after of my personal reasons to avoid reviews avoids future ones.
Understand though I 100% understand your lack of desire to be reviewed. there are plenty of complications on the women's end when it comes to them starting legalities and moving into other area's as well. I would try to discourage them or even advertise elsewhere and make a "no review policy"
Just be honest and explain your reasons to avoid reviews and most will be understanding. Like everything else to do with this hobby you will always risk the gentleman that does not care one way or another and prefers to get the points by doing the review.
To play devils advocate as well. Review's are helpful in finding doubles partners that fit your style. It helps in knowing (for the most part) what type of girl the client likes so you can decline if you feel your not a good match. ( I look and reviews men have done of other girls when screening) For the girls benefit aside from more clients it can also let the lurkers know you are legit and safe.
I find what works for me (or has mostly in the past) is discouraging reviews gently. I am confident in my services enough to believe that unless they are ridiculously cruel for no reason reviews wont be posted. Ideally most of the gentlemen I have seen respect my lack of desire to have reviews. Of course they understand I would be disinclined to enjoy their company again if a review cropped up.
Once in a great while one pops through. I cringe but understand the necessity and that overall the goal of the gentleman was no more than to "sing my praises" Usually a discussion after of my personal reasons to avoid reviews avoids future ones.
Understand though I 100% understand your lack of desire to be reviewed. there are plenty of complications on the women's end when it comes to them starting legalities and moving into other area's as well. I would try to discourage them or even advertise elsewhere and make a "no review policy"
Just be honest and explain your reasons to avoid reviews and most will be understanding. Like everything else to do with this hobby you will always risk the gentleman that does not care one way or another and prefers to get the points by doing the review.
To play devils advocate as well. Review's are helpful in finding doubles partners that fit your style. It helps in knowing (for the most part) what type of girl the client likes so you can decline if you feel your not a good match. ( I look and reviews men have done of other girls when screening) For the girls benefit aside from more clients it can also let the lurkers know you are legit and safe.
- Grace Preston
- 10-11-2012, 03:48 PM
Actually, the Eccie policy is that if you advertise ANYWHERE-- you can be reviewed here. It is not the same as the ASPD policy was.
In addition-- from a purely legal standpoint, reviews can be used as threats by LE, but in court they are useless.... because anyone can write anything on the internet under the cloak of anonymity... heck, even Joe Law could write a review just to create evidence. Without the person in court to cross examine, even an incompetent lawyer can get reviews deemed inadmissible. LE uses them as threats to get a girl to just "roll over and confess all"... but in court they aren't worth the bandwidth they are written on.
"Talibanish".... that has to be the most inane comparison I have ever seen in my life. Hmmm... a review of my sexual prowess vs. getting stoned, beaten, killed for not following a moral law. Not a great comparison.
In addition-- from a purely legal standpoint, reviews can be used as threats by LE, but in court they are useless.... because anyone can write anything on the internet under the cloak of anonymity... heck, even Joe Law could write a review just to create evidence. Without the person in court to cross examine, even an incompetent lawyer can get reviews deemed inadmissible. LE uses them as threats to get a girl to just "roll over and confess all"... but in court they aren't worth the bandwidth they are written on.
"Talibanish".... that has to be the most inane comparison I have ever seen in my life. Hmmm... a review of my sexual prowess vs. getting stoned, beaten, killed for not following a moral law. Not a great comparison.
- Sensia
- 10-11-2012, 04:07 PM
Actually, the Eccie policy is that if you advertise ANYWHERE-- you can be reviewed here. It is not the same as the ASPD policy was.....this isn't entirely true.. they can and will try to use, sometimes successful sometimes not your posts/ads, and reviews attached to your website and profile to make the case. It will all depend on how good of an attorney you have as well.
In addition-- from a purely legal standpoint, reviews can be used as threats by LE, but in court they are useless.... because anyone can write anything on the internet under the cloak of anonymity... heck, even Joe Law could write a review just to create evidence. Without the person in court to cross examine, even an incompetent lawyer can get reviews deemed inadmissible. LE uses them as threats to get a girl to just "roll over and confess all"... but in court they aren't worth the bandwidth they are written on.
. Originally Posted by GracePreston
- Sensia
- 10-11-2012, 04:10 PM
If you respect the women you see, why not use the system in a way that protects them, and gives them the dignity of having a defense, if they happen to get arrested, and they would like to take the charge to trial by jury? How can the mystery of what it is like to be with a particular lady, be such a big turn off if everybody knows that YMMV anyway? Are men's erections more dependent upon each others erotic revelations than the women they see?
Since there is nothing illegal about paying someone to have dinner with you, and what two consenting adults do in private once they have met and become friends is a private matter, it is a mandatory detailed sexual review system that makes escorts vulnerable to getting arrested, and guarantees they will be convicted.
The most shameful and Talibanish aspect of a sexual detail review system, such as this one, is that the men exploiting it are not the ones who are getting arrested for exercising bragging rights in a manner that puts the women at risk. Why is it necessary to sacrifice the women in such a manner? I would truly like to understand this.
Are the men who use these boards unable to get an erection for women without whetting each other's appetites? Is that why this is necessary? Originally Posted by Deva Divine
The original intent was to give the guys a safe place to talk about legitimate providers and avoid rob/scammers, and LE. I agree, the review boards are a double edged sword for the women, and tends to be more problematic in the long run for the escort than the men who see them.
However with all the D.A.s from state to state looking to update old outdated prostitution laws and bring things up to par with internet technology, I am sure it won't be long before they do pass laws that will hinder these sites or get them shut down. It isn't a matter of if it is a matter of when. Best to be as cautious as possible when posting on internet escort boards.
- Deva Divine
- 10-11-2012, 04:12 PM
They presume you are guilty, based on association with those who are blatantly breaking the law, and arrest you. Then it is up to you to prove you are not, which eats up your profits. After spending three days in jail, getting kicked in the head, coming out with a scar on your face, and paying for a lawyer, you could have made more money working at a regular job and having sex with the boss in order to get a raise... The incentive to work as an escort is quickly diminished when factoring in the heightened risk, which makes me wonder is there is a subconscious drive to put the women out of business on the part of reviewers, or whether erectile function is simply and naturally dependent upon man's sense of entitlement to boast about his exploitations. Hence my use of the term "talibanish"... if the former.
- Eccie Addict
- 10-11-2012, 04:31 PM
Actually, the Eccie policy is that if you advertise ANYWHERE-- you can be reviewed here. It is not the same as the ASPD policy was. Originally Posted by GracePreston
That is not the case according to this guideline. From what it says here you can can advertise anywhere else and have a no review policy. At least that isthe way I'm reading it.
#29 - Verified Providers who use the Showcase feature or advertise in our forums are not entitled to a no-review policy. Should circumstances arise which require or prompt you to request a no-review policy on ECCIE, please understand that enforcement of this policy also results in revoking of your showcase or ad-posting privileges. Ladies who have chosen a no-review policy on ECCIE may still post and create threads in any of the non-advertising forums on the board and will still have access to the girls-only areas of the board.