GFE

Okay this may be old stuff for some,out of curiosity for provider and client alike,what constitutes GFE?Is it more services I.e.Bbbj,or attitude.It goes without saying kissing has to be on the menu.

For me GFE is girl friend like experience!! Not being smart but like you and your S.O. would experience.Not a "Hey I'm here for this lets do IT and get the HELL out" A little quality time cuddling and getting to know one another like you and an ole girlfriend. But those of you that know ME know GFE!! Hopefully!!! Or am i advertising wrong maybe it should be GFE with PSE twist don't mean to change the subject...Happy New YEar and New Board

GFE meaning girl friend experience always makes me chuckle..

I mean i guess it would depend on what kind of girls your use to dating right?..I was labeled and have been so in reviews before as GFE..yet I offer greek and other things.. so either those guys have been with really outgoing girlfriends which would beg the question why is he here? or he was confused and since I perhaps kissed, cuddled etc..he took that as GFE..

of course i offer the above half ass joking..but seriously wouldn't it depend on what you expect out of a girl friend..some guys can be really demanding

GFE can be argued about constantly..its services, its attitude, its this or that.. i think tho it boils down to attitude.. what kind of "attitude" does the provider bring to the date might dictate whether she is gfe or pse. I think its widely accepted that the "illusion of passion", the sensuality, the feelings you would get with a close girlfriend would have to be there.

However you get into "services" and the argument is..my gf wouldn't offer cim..but provider A is gfe and does.. so is that a girlfriend experience or pse? porn stars are known for facials, anal and more.. so does offering that exclude a provider from being able to provide a gfe experience? probably not, since the guy can partake of those or not.

Personally I am up front in what i think i can provide attitude wise. I do my best to create a fun enviroment that fits my personality..but i refuse to play the mind games..its our job whether gfe or pse to make that guy feel like the only one and special, but i won't engage in outside the hobby banter or pretend as if there is a chance for us beyond a business arrangement..I think I personally more fit the PSE style of fun and guys seeking the "wham bam thank you ma'am" type engagement where we both know why we are there, and we show up to get that accomplished there is no more expectations than a fun time that meets what the guy expects.

I think if someone wants to they can provide GFE or PSE..i also think its widely accepted that the norm for services for GFE would be DFK,bbbj,multiple positions..i think not offering dfk and/or bbbj takes you out of being GFE automatically..but not sure.

In the end, labels are just that and mean different things to different people..you may see someone labeled GFE and find out during a date that cbj is only offered or only lfk.. so her services don't dictate it..but her "attitude did"..

I think more often that not, its safe to say that if someone is labeled GFE..that means their attitude may be correct but you might wanna double check the services if it makes a difference to you..and realize that someone labeled PSE..might be labeled that not due to services but because her attitude lends itself to a more aggressive "porn" style setup..

will be interesting to see what guys expect out of GFE labels

Conversation and kissing throughout. BBBJ, obviously. Not running out the door the minute the guy pops. Basically, not treating it like some sort of methodical clinic where you're just going through the motions and clock-watching. Even though I'm sure most, if not all, are doing that, at least attempt to create the illusion you're not.

I'd never reschedule with anyone who wasn't GFE.

Okay sounds like attitude is the main thing do far.Illusion of passion is very telling in it's description of what most men would expect from a GFE.I agree with Deanna that CIM
isn't the whole story because the only girlfriend I ever had who did did it once and said it tasted like bleach.
What does that stuff like anyway?

the only girlfriend I ever had who did did it once and said it tasted like bleach.
What does that stuff like anyway? Originally Posted by Lookin4

1 sure fire way to find out

Ask a girl?

DeAnna is basically on target with her comments.... but since GFE is a term that isn't going away....
- Illusion of Passion , Able to Carry a Conversation , Relaxed
- Actually Enjoys Sex
- DFK / LFK
- BBBJ (minimum)
- DATY
- Multiple Position Fucking
- MSOG
- Cuddle Time
- Full Time Paid For
I would name a bunch of eXXXcellent Arkansas examples. . . . but I'm sure I'd offend somebody by omission!

Let it suffice to say , Sydney does not lie!

Giz

Ask a girl? Originally Posted by Lookin4

awww thats the chicken sh*t way of doing it lol..

DeAnna is basically on target with her comments.... but since GFE is a term that isn't going away....
- Illusion of Passion , Able to Carry a Conversation , Relaxed
- DFK
- BBBJ (minimum)
- DATY
- Multiple Position Fucking
- MSOG
- Full Time Paid For
I would name a bunch of eXXXcellent Arkansas examples. . . . but I'm sure I'd offend somebody by omission!

Let it suffice to say , Sydney does not lie!

Giz Originally Posted by MrGiz

you know whats funny about a few of the above things..

MSOG--client may not use it, may never use it, but damn sure better be offered and available lol..I learned thru the years its not always about the hobbyiest using it, but having it available

full time paid for--same as MSOG, may not use it, may not do anything after the first 60 seconds.. 90 if the girl ain't naked already..but it better be offered, allowed even if the guy doesn't make use of his time with activity

it always amazed me how those 2 things play an important role in the entire "date", no matter gfe or pse lol

....client may not use it, may never use it, but damn sure better be offered and available lol.... Originally Posted by DeAnna Luv

Yep! Damned Straight! You Got It!!

I like having more shots than I can use. A nymphomaniac is a women who wants to have sex one more time than you do.

. . . . A nymphomaniac is a women who wants to have sex one more time than you do. Originally Posted by Lookin4

. . . . and can!

DeAnna is basically on target with her comments.... but since GFE is a term that isn't going away....
- Illusion of Passion , Able to Carry a Conversation , Relaxed
- Actually Enjoys Sex
- DFK / LFK
- BBBJ (minimum)
- DATY
- Multiple Position Fucking
- MSOG
- Cuddle Time
- Full Time Paid For Originally Posted by MrGiz

Not at all a bad summary, Giz. My comments:

For me, "GFE" implies that the lady, for the brief time we're together, makes me feel like she's my girlfriend and lover, even though she isn't... For me, FK (preferably DFK) is the absolute standard: if the girl doesn't FK, it's not a GFE, period, simply because I've never ever had a girlfriend who didn't French kiss me.

BBBJ is a big part of the experience, though it's not a total dealbreaker for me. Honestly, I'll try a lady who does CBJ once, if reviews indicate that the rest of the experience is going to be there. But frankly, in roughly 25 years of hobbying and experience of roughly a couple hundred providers from streetwalkers (early in my career, not anymore) to fairly pricey escorts, I've met maybe two (three, tops) ladies who can give a CBJ worth receiving. If a lady balks at BBBJ, she's going to have to give a CBJ on that level for me to come back. (Part of this is sheer practicality; I've been diabetic for something like 14 years now, and a touch of ED is part of my baggage. I use the little blue pill, but I need a good BJ to get things rolling (and you can imagine the frustration of paying $200 or more for an hour (or more) of time with a lady and being unable to completely function because the lady insists on the layer of latex but has no f*cking clue of how to work with it). That's much more likely to happen with a BBBJ than a CBJ. But as I said... I'll give a CBJ-only lady at least one good chance to prove herself...)

DATY is also an important (though not completely essential) part of the picture for me... in part because I want to make my partner cum at least once during the session, and frankly I can do that much more regularly via DATY than via sticking tab A in slot B--tab in slot fun is the way I get my jollies during the session (though if the lady does BBBJCIM--NQNS is best, but I don't mind spitting--that is an alternate mode for my pleasure, and I won't turn it down, fer sure).

The rest of the factors you mention are certainly important to providing the GF Experience, and ladies who want to aspire to that level of service can do much, much worse than printing out your post and referring to it every time they book a session.

Cheers,

bcg

Great discussion. As an Arkansas Traveler, I'd like to pose a similar question... what is the difference bewteen GFE and PSE?

Huck