I know why West Texas is a ghost town on ECCIE

Just when it gets interesting and somewhat entertaining with both sides showing useful information the mods close the thread. There was no reason to close the thread. No one was fighting it was more of a discussion of how business is run around here.

Ok fine Wyldeman-- if you think you can keep the conversation on the costs of hobbying in M/O and both sides stop the personal jabs at each other- I reopened it. But, I will not tolerate you folks being rude, etc.... that thread was starting to go that way and truly, as far as you and Innocent talking 'about" each other it had run it's course.

I'm loathe to close threads but I am even more loathe at discussions becoming too personal about the posters. That isn't tolerated anywhere on this board.

Since I am not the mod for this area, I am gonna take my mod hat off again for a little bit and put that snug fitting member hat on again.

Wyldeman, let me give ya a look at the west Texas Pussy market. It seems from your posts that you are finding it a little ( or a lot) different from Austin.

I started out on these boards back in January of 2001. I was one of the first 2250 members of ASPD. When ASPD folded , I became a mod on eraps and am now a mod there and on eccie Houston. Throughout all this time, I have resided in West Texas. And the majority of my hobbying has been in WT. I also have met providers in DFW, San Antone, Austin, Houston, and several other non-WT cities.

So, I have a variety of hobby experiences. And west Texas is a different market and unlike any other. Some good size cities that are spread out to hell and back ( think EP).

In Texas , several areas can be lumped together based on their viewpoints.

Houston and Austin show complete disdain for the providers and look at them as so much meat. Rent it and throw it away. This is pushed by a number of loud hobbyist who are very vocal in their comments. I am not sure about their real feeling, since most do not write reviews and show how they actually treat the providers in person.

San Antonio and DFW are described by the A and H crowd as pussy whipped. Providers have more influence, are treated better on the boards and there are a hell of a lots of good looking providers there. The hobbyist and providers have a better relationship and it quite easy to use your board presence and P411 to make appointments, because most hobbyist there do not turn the providers off on the board posts.

Then there is West Texas. Take a look at the provider ads. How many of those ads come from providers who actually live in the West Texas cities. Offhand, I can come up with 5. 5. Five providers in Abilene, Lubbock, Amarillo, El Paso and Midland/Odessa. These are eccie providers who live in west Texas. Where I am going is this. West Texans are very appreciative when the traveling pussy comes to town. We know their rates are gonna be higher because they have to rent their incall, along with other traveling experiences. We tend to treat them well if we have a good time, so they will return. Because if they do not, it can be a long dry spell. I know once it was 4 months without a visitor to Abilene. I visited both DFW and SA during that time.

So, I think you need to forget what you knew about the pussy market in Austin. West Texas is a different Market. Just like Krogers is different from HEB. Prices are different. Thinks that happen and prices charged are different out here. They have been since 2001, I know, and I do not see it changing

Just s little FYI

In Austin it is not use them as meat and throw them away. We just have high standards and the board is a lot more informative for both sides.

I am sure I will find some decent travelers and stay far away from back page out here.

I have found some good ones off Austin back page that were bbbj and good service. I have also heard the horror stories of pimps robbing guys in Austin.

Just an observation is most on here are just lurking afraid to speak up. Providers do not say a whole lot out here either.

Pistolero where are you a mod at?

My assessment is this part of Texas is run by WKs and Mod dictator. Guys don't post honest reviews and other guys just lurk. I would not say everyone is dishonest on reviews, but I bet that is the reason not many publish reviews. Consider how many cities are in west Texas and how few reviews are posted. El Paso has bad ass strip clubs and there is very little activity.

On eccie , I am a mod for Houston. Whichj, Is different than out here.

You can go back as far as eccie has existed and into the ASPD years and you will never see a lot of activity on the WT boards. The provider count and hobbyist count is just not here. As I stated above, it is different here.

Being nice to the providers and treating them with some respect goes a long way out here to help you continue to get quality pussy visits. If they are treated like they are in some other cities, they stop making the trips. I have seen that happen more than once in the last 12 years out here. And being nice to providers does not qualify anyone as a WK. There is very, very little of that which goes on out here.

The guys in EP have never been lax on their reviews. I do not know for sure, but their volume may be down either because of few visitors or the large amount of LE activity there before the election.

I was probably the most prolific reviewer for west Texas during the lifespan of ASPD and I only had 70 or 80 total, over 9 years. The volume is just not out here.

It looks like trips to Dallas,SA, and Austin is the way to go. Being nice and a push over are two different things.

Since I am not the mod for this area, I am gonna take my mod hat off again for a little bit and put that snug fitting member hat on again.

Wyldeman, let me give ya a look at the west Texas Pussy market. It seems from your posts that you are finding it a little ( or a lot) different from Austin.

I started out on these boards back in January of 2001. I was one of the first 2250 members of ASPD. When ASPD folded , I became a mod on eraps and am now a mod there and on eccie Houston. Throughout all this time, I have resided in West Texas. And the majority of my hobbying has been in WT. I also have met providers in DFW, San Antone, Austin, Houston, and several other non-WT cities.

So, I have a variety of hobby experiences. And west Texas is a different market and unlike any other. Some good size cities that are spread out to hell and back ( think EP).

In Texas , several areas can be lumped together based on their viewpoints.

Houston and Austin show complete disdain for the providers and look at them as so much meat. Rent it and throw it away. This is pushed by a number of loud hobbyist who are very vocal in their comments. I am not sure about their real feeling, since most do not write reviews and show how they actually treat the providers in person.

San Antonio and DFW are described by the A and H crowd as pussy whipped. Providers have more influence, are treated better on the boards and there are a hell of a lots of good looking providers there. The hobbyist and providers have a better relationship and it quite easy to use your board presence and P411 to make appointments, because most hobbyist there do not turn the providers off on the board posts.

Then there is West Texas. Take a look at the provider ads. How many of those ads come from providers who actually live in the West Texas cities. Offhand, I can come up with 5. 5. Five providers in Abilene, Lubbock, Amarillo, El Paso and Midland/Odessa. These are eccie providers who live in west Texas. Where I am going is this. West Texans are very appreciative when the traveling pussy comes to town. We know their rates are gonna be higher because they have to rent their incall, along with other traveling experiences. We tend to treat them well if we have a good time, so they will return. Because if they do not, it can be a long dry spell. I know once it was 4 months without a visitor to Abilene. I visited both DFW and SA during that time.

So, I think you need to forget what you knew about the pussy market in Austin. West Texas is a different Market. Just like Krogers is different from HEB. Prices are different. Thinks that happen and prices charged are different out here. They have been since 2001, I know, and I do not see it changing

Just s little FYI Originally Posted by Pistolero

I've been around since ASPD days and lived in El Paso for a few years and have family is Midland Odessa area so I'd like to way in on this. Also been living in Austin for a while and hobby with Houston and Dallas girls on the reg.

First off I don't know the Houston Market as far as guy-provider relationships so I can't and will not comment on that. I will say that I don't care for Duke Of G, not sure if he is a mod there or not but he comes across like a know it all ass to me in chat. I do see some houston ladies when they come to ATX and enjoy their company and prices.

When I lived in El Paso and even when I go back (I have relatives that live there so I visit a few times a year) I have noticed the boards are dead. Getting good info and finding reasonable priced ladies is tuff tuff tuff. While I lived there I did most of my playing in the strip clubs and across the boarder in boys town. Both were cheap ways to go and I also got a good nut. I cannot comment on the WK aspect as the board is too dead for me to even pay attention to much posted. When I visit I don't even look on the boards anymore as they've never been anything but disappointing. I mean common EL paso has a million folks living in it but you can't find decent looking and priced tail on eccie (not just a EL Paso issue, When I was in Michigan I had the same issue)

Midland-Odessa I don't even try and play out there. The oil guys out there have killed the market for pretty much everything. My goal there is to get the fuck out and get home ASAP. Everything sucks out there and it smells bad. Horrible area to visit. Been trying to get my mom to move for years but she is still there.

Oil guys are like military guys but with more $$$. Most never made that kind of money before (some young guys getting paid way to much to soon) and they have no self control or self discipline and will blow a whole paycheck in one night at the club. Hard to get girls to play for a reasonable rate when they have dumb easy $$ walking around. ( I myself was in the Army right out of high school and both brothers of mine with one now retired army and my other brother soon to retire) I also have oil man friends and oil man in family so I've seen both lives for many, many years.

I was happy as all get up to get the hell out of El Paso and move to Austin. Not for hobby purposes just because El Paso is a shit hole in the middle of a dry desert far from anything.

As far as Austin being mean to providers I don't see it. There are some dicks in coed that call thread out everytime a lady post something. Other then that Austin ladies have it made. Look at average prices, I can go to dallas and houston and get hot tail all day for 180-200 per hour GFE. Even San Antonio but in Austin that same tail (actually a little older and a little less attractive) is going to run you 250. We even get traveling ladies who raise their rates when they get to travis county because our ladies charge more.

You can't attribute how coed is to how ladies are treated. That is just plain ignorant and I would expect more from a mod who's been around for so long. Most of the busy ladies are not even active on eccie (don't post, don't read post) in Austin so what happens on the board by a handful of guys has no effect on the ladies. If anything I would say in reality the Austin ladies are treated to good by guys with means who don't post reviews but pay top dollar for not top ladies. I myself won't even hobby with Austin ladies anymore. When I'm not getting stripper tail I am playing with Dallas and Houston Ladies that come down to visit. Better prices, hotter girls.

My assessment is this part of Texas is run by WKs and Mod dictator. Originally Posted by WyldemanATX

that's half true. it is a dictatorship and that's exactly how it needs to be. someone has to take care of the board and maintain order. i sure as fuck wouldn't volunteer, and it's a good thing, too. i'd send shit spewing assholes down the road in a microsecond so they could see how much fun it is to find pussy without a resource like eccie.

that's half true. it is a dictatorship and that's exactly how it needs to be. someone has to take care of the board and maintain order. i sure as fuck wouldn't volunteer, and it's a good thing, too. i'd send shit spewing assholes down the road in a microsecond so they could see how much fun it is to find pussy without a resource like eccie. Originally Posted by john_deere

That's not the point of the mod and also why you would make a shitty mod. The job of the mod is to enforce the rules of eccie and their ownership. Mod's need to put personal feeling aside and lose their ego's to enforce the rules of ECCIE ownership.

I don't know KC so I don't have an opinion at this point but I'm sure as I spread my legs and put my feet up I'll get a sense fairly soon. I do post in diff areas and will say the mods seem to be diff in each area and do put their own touch in on how they mod. If Austin for instance the mods tend to let things go their own course as long as it stays fairly civil but will come in to bitch slap us when we go to far outside the lines. Z and Space are fair and don't lean towards ladies or gents.

In San Antonio Mok (who I have a great deal of respect for) is more heavy handed and the board is a lot more civil. He keeps things on topic and does not allow for much bickering.

Out here the board seems pretty dead and pretty quiet. I would think there isn't much need for moderation except for the occasional review or thread that get's out of line.

Dallas I don't really pay attention to the moderation just all the smoking hot ladies and clubs. Same with Houston.

Although I will say I don't care for Duke Of G. I don't know where he is from but in chat he needs to stop sharing out in open what isn't asked of him. I have heard the houston mods are a little outspoken and a little bullish but other then Duke I cannot confirm or deny this.

Sport, surf, soul, ken monk I've chatted with all of them and they are pretty funny and seem cool in chat. Haven't really noticed the board moderation of any other then Soul who IMHO is a helpful and fair mod.

Just be glad Bubba isn't around

lol! you're right, i would make a shitty mod. i have 1/10 cryptkeeper's patience for bullshit.

I do post in diff areas and will say the mods seem to be diff in each area and do put their own touch in on how they mod. This is something that many members can not seem to understand. I told Wyldeman several times it was different here from Austin.

Out here the board seems pretty dead and pretty quiet. I would think there isn't much need for moderation except for the occasional review or thread that get's out of line. But when it is moderated it needs to be listened too.


Duke Of G. I don't know where he is from Dallas
the houston mods are a little outspoken and a little bullish ARE NOT !! lol



Just be glad Bubba isn't around Things are different now, for better or worse. . Originally Posted by homer13

My comments in red above.

And I stand by my statements on how providers are treated on the Austin boards. Not in person, but on the board. I noticed you also commented on how non-reviewers may treat them well. But my comments were on board treatment.

i surf the austin boards enough to agree with you, pistol, at least as far as a few posters are concerned.

i surf the austin boards enough to agree with you, pistol, at least as far as a few posters are concerned. Originally Posted by john_deere

don't get Austin Envy now deere, we like our board and our mod's. Is it more hostile, maybe but thats what happens when the board is full of posters and not a ghost town. Outspoken ladies and gents sometimes clash but overall the ladies have it pretty good. other then WT where prices are determined by lack of options Austin has some pretty high rates so our ladies aren't staving by any means. We also get an influx of Dallas and Houston ladies who have so much competition in their own areas.

Please don't confuse the lack of posts with the lack of ladies. With the exception of El Paso (which has it's own set of difficulties in getting ladies to visit) and Abilene (which sometimes gets lost in the shuffle of ladies going to Midland/Odessa) a large amount of ladies do come through. Rarely do I hear a complaint of the number of ladies that come to the other towns.

The majority of the folks that use the West Texas board like it relatively quiet and definitely drama free. We share what needs to be shared and folks review who they wish to and simply enjoy the experience of the ones they do not. It may not be the way the boards are in the rest of the state but it is the way the board is out here. Just one of the quirks of West Texas.