I've lurked around forever but lets face it, most of the girls who give newbies a chance get their livelyhood from that. If theres one thats exeptional have her pm me. i think i may get a p411,
Not sure about all the details but right now it seems like it's really important for women to be extra careful. In the past I have found just talking to women and being more concerned about making them comfortable with me went over way better than acting impatiant or pushy. I dont get in a big hurry. Just try and remember that if you are like me and dont have alot of references, or even any references at all, it wont help if you get pushy. Not saying thats what you are doing but these women have to feel like they are safe with you in order to fully enjoy eachothers company as best as possible. I dont have p411 either. Sometimes you may not always be able to meet a woman you are interested in. Thats part of it. Good luck
I lurked here from a few years ago when ASPD went down till Sep 2012 without even paying to be a registered member here and I never tell someone I haven't seen before I have P411 or I am an Eccie member. It's just "I saw your ad at such and such place, Can you answer these questions about your services (if I have any), what area is your incall and when can we meet?"...If they ask about references I respond, "These are my references and this is how they will remember me"...You wouldn't believe how many providers I see without giving out any Handles or membership information...You absolutely do have to make them feel comfortable that you know what you're doing otherwise their LE Radar starts beeping. I never ever do outcalls, but outcalls for a provider and you having little background info to share definitely would set off their Radar and is the most dangerous situation they can be in. BP ladies may do it (that's very dangerous for you though), but a good legit pro wouldn't go near you without solid background info....From a former lurker, I hope this helps.
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not all newbie friendly providers are like that sweetie. i am newbie freinly with proper screening. p411 will help, but you will still have to get some good ok's and verified references. we were all new at some point, but it takes time as all good things do. be patiant and bear with being new and it will get better.