Reasonable shelf life of a provider, Whats the next step ??
The thread on "Regular Gig" actually opens a question of, what does a provider do when she can not reasonably depend on the income as a provider to provide the life style she has become a custome to?
Basically a provider is a marketable good that provides a specialized service. Many providers start out in college to supplement their income until they graduate, some find their way through circumstance in the business, but usually I would think a provider is more successful at a younger age when her looks are at a prime.
With this premise being stated, any product has a shelf life. Beauty is as said, generally in the eye of the beholder and as a provider beauty may initally open the door, but over time it is skill and the ability to personally interact, that gains career longevity. Many providers I have sat down and talked to at some point put a target on when they expected to exit the profession. I have known many early 20 providers that put a career exit at 28, by the age of 28 they felt they would have saved enough money and be in a position financially to exit providing. I know several of these same girls today at 32 who are still providing because things did not work out as planed.
The point here is, time is more gentle on some providers than others, but at some point the end does come. The day will come when all the travel, ads, make-up, tucks, lifts etc. just will not draw the customers they once did. No matter how much of a sexually insatible woman you are at some point your health may not allow you to hobby. What do you do next as a gig when you can not provide for a income?
My guess is if you are up there in age and have not already started thinking about this, you are pretty much screwed. I have never been a full-time provider dependent on the industry, so that's a scary thought. I will admit I have grown accustomed to that extra 5-8k every month in addition to my other income, but with an MBA I will have no problem making that when I graduate.
The only down side is having no extra income, or being able to travel the globe for free every month. With a career comes responsibility and dedication, and not many people have that drive to get up and go to a full time job every day. Hell that's the main reason I started escorting, but then we grow up I guess.
All in all this business is not supposed to be forever. I can't imagine being an escort for even the next 5 years because it does put a strain on my personal relationships.
No one knows what I do, and I make sure of it by being extra discreet. Even though many here have children who may not know, I am quite sure they have teachers who browse these sites and others...no longer a risk I am willing to take.
As for shelf life, I totally agree. The more worn out you get the less you have to charge to make it. That's when you see the constant specials and discounts popping up from those who once charged a premium...either that or they have seen everyone already.
Guys like variety so it really makes no difference how hot you are, eventually if they don't marry you...they will have a new atf lol.
I have never seen as many clients as most escorts do, and if I had to there is no way I could still be doing this. If I see more than 3 clients a week, it takes its toll, so I normally don't work at all when I am local....just when I visit a city.
It all comes down to balance. I am not available all day, 5 days a week in this business, so I have a lot of down time and things to keep me busy. I get bored rather quick, and I suppose that includes sex with stangers.
If I got married I sure as hell would not be doing this as I don't believe in that kind of arrangement. If you have a mortgage, car notes, credit cards, loans, etc. that are not paid for and you have been doing this for over 5 years..something is wrong with your financial planning skills lol. If done right, most escorts can normally pay off one, if not two or three houses in less than 10 years.
The biggest problem I have noticed, is that most escorts get attached and consumed buying material things, surgery, cars they can't pay for cash....basically living in the moment rather than thinking about the future. That is one sure fire way to be here until you are in your golden years lol.
I believe you have to have a good business sense, know how to save, where to invest, and when to pull out...no pun intended. I am proud to say that as of last month I owe no one anything. Everything I own is paid for, except the house I will have to buy when I move. I get a new vehicle every few years, and have yet to pay a car note. I donate 10 percent, save 10 percent, and live on the rest. It is something that has worked since I was 20, so why change it?
Shelf life UTR? Come on, lol. I found it interesting how many providers actually started "later" in life. I'm in my mid thirties and started less than a year ago. There are many local mature ladies that are also doing very well. I don't know if I agree with your opinion that younger ladies do better. That might be another thread in itself. I can't speak for the younger ladies but I find the client looking for over 30 provider isn't looking for the flavor of the week. They seem to be loyal to a lady who they are comfortable with.
I suppose a lifetime provider who is ready to leave the biz could become a "mentor" to new ladies.
I agree with London. We need to Be smart, save while we can and have good business sense.
I agree financial planning in any profession is essential. I also agree with UTR providers in fact do have a shelf life although I do not think that shelf life ends in a ladies 30's. Each person is different and if a provider thinks her looks are not material to her income she is sadly mistaken, I think. Some people can maintain beauty for a long time, some cannot. Julinka is a beautiful woman in her upper 40's, Nicolet is providing in her 50's (have not seen or met Nicloet cannot comment on looks). So, planning is important.
I can say from my experience the youngest lady I have been with told me she was 26 and she looked it too. She was simply HOT!! But her age, for me, took away from the whole experience as she was somewhat selfish and standoffish. I only saw her once. Also could have been that was rather new to profession IDK.
I also agree with Heidi, I am loyal to a provider in her thirties. At my age I just relate better with her and if I am with her for an hour we do talk and relate. I for one cannot have sex for 60 minutes straight nor do I want to. For me the experience is more enjoyable having sex with someone I can relate with at my stage in life meaning I really look for providers close to my age and I am in my early 40's.
As with anything it's important to have a plan.
You made me curious so I went to e.com and did a search for providers age 45-99
The results came back with 458 matches. The oldest one I saw was 69.
Did a showcase search here on eccie and found 11 that were listed as 50+
Check them out.. I think these ladies would disagree with your "shelf-life" theory
As for what I plan to do when I decide to leave... I haven't made a finial decision. I've got a few ideas kicking around
my plan is to go as long as I can...just cause you get older does not mean you forget how to have fun{there are other venues of the hobby life you can switch to}
I am a mature provider and have found that the older you get,the older your clients get...{I still have a few young ones once in awhile that want a "mrs. Robinson" experience...I even have a 28 year old i see regularly}...I have guys tell me alot that I have more energy than a 25 year old!!{lol}
I think I am better sexually than I have EVER been in my provider career....I know I have a better body & am in better physical condition.....as I get older,I focus more on keeping in shape,how I dress,and keeping a healthy sexual attitude
{and I have less rules and am also finding myself being more open to trying new sexual adventures}
I guess when I FINALLY wind down,I will just be a gypsy and travel!!!!{lol}
I don't think UTR is saying someone in their 60's can't advertise as an escort, but I would bet it is a lot harder for them to attract the business of a perfectly built, 25 year old charging the same rate. Just because someone has an ad and reviews does not mean they are working as much as they would like. Age is no different than other factors such as being a BBW, being heavily tattooed, etc. Not that any of those are bad things, but in every poll ever done on aspd, most guys selected spinners in their 20's, or the 30-40 range.
The majority of hobbyists go for a certain criteria, and young and fresh is usually up there. Then you have the guys who go for the mature ladies in their 30's, 40's, and 50's...again that's their type, but who knows if these ladies are having to lower rates to keep up with the youngens.
The elves themselves have proven this time and again. Look what happened when Ella dropped her rate and started offering greek for 1.5 lol. She is kinda hard to beat in the eyes of most hobbyists not willing to spend more money to get the same thing.
If you look at reviews especially on this site, the young spinners seem to be the highest in demand. Now of course there are plenty enough men to go around, which is why you see many different rate scales, body types, races, etc.
Not everyone in their late forties is blessed to look as perfect as Julinka...she is the exception, not the rule. From what I have gathered she does not wear herself out seeing tons of clients per day either, so that makes a huge difference in terms of keeping her youthful. Even her face does not show her age!
Still, beauty is always in the eye of the beholder which is why one guy's 5 is another guy's 9, and why different shapes and sizes of women continue to earn a living in the business.
It is a bit naive to think you can earn 5k a month in this business for the rest of your life. Eventually, you will have to offer an incentive that overrides the appeal of what younger, cheaper, girls are offering...that could mean a variety of things. I doubt someone in their 50's and 60's is charging over $400 an hour and getting that on a consistent basis, and I have spoken to many lovely ladies who will confirm this.
Every business has a so called shelf life, so I don't think his post was meant as an insult...it's a reality. You can only be a welder for so long without having enormous medical problems, resulting from constant exposure to those conditions. Same with being a provider. If you are high volume, your body can only take a pounding from 3 guys a day for years on end, before the effects start to take their toll. Again it is all about not getting burnt out, or worn out lol.
The lady seeing 2 guys a week for 5 years as opposed to the one seeing 10 a week for the same amount of time, is going to be in a hell of a lot better shape when she decides to leave the business....I mean shape as in condition of her body, not her weight btw.
I have put a cap on my shelf life to be here, and it's about 18 more months. Still, I could easily get 5 more years in and still be under 35, but I don't want to. I know it will get harder and harder to keep the rates I have, and I will leave before I lower them.
This business is not for everyone in terms of how long they stay here. Quite frankly, I want my life to count for something other than screwing women's husbands, but that's just me.
Actually, I did not take his post as an insult.
He made me curious as well, so I looked and shared what I found.
I wasen't referring to you April
Just a general statement speaking of his character.
I am a 50+ provider and I am doing quite well. I am in the process of returning to school to finish my degree in radiology, with the clinical aspect being the only thing left for me to do, which is 2 years. With careful planning, I will be able to obtain my goal of moving to the Keys, getting a little shack on the beach and make money taking xrays of the local drunken tourists! I promise to keep my finger away from the 'extra crispy' button!
For me if you provide the services I'm looking for I'm good.
Dallas is the exception to the rule, and I mean that in a good way, actually a woman with the energy and intensity of Dallas is a little intimidating if you are the type of guy that can bring it and bring it good.
I have noticed recently many older providers on the scene, what many dawgs would call "Oldies but Goodies". My question is, are these providers being driven by unexpected personal circumstance, possibly the economy, lay-off etc. I have seen many older women in mid 30's-40's who were in marriage for the sake of the kids and once the nest was empty left that "no good bastard" so to speak. Many of these ladies have been very conservative sexually over the course of their life, many being faithfully committed to a no good womanizing dawg of a man, and when she finally walks out the marriage, she feels now it is her turn to have some fun. I have seen some of these ladies get very wild in their later years, but then again sexually they do not have the milage of say a 25 year old that has been escorting since she was 17., and many of these women are personally well kept, the so callled soccer mom type, body to die for, works out regularly etc.. These ladies are a true treat, its like finding a mint condition 1965 corvette with low miles. They look good, they have the experience, but at a lower volume.
In my particular case, I chose to raise my kids alone, completely alone. I did not date or have sex for 13 years. Not to say I didn't give myself pleasure! So I am pretty well preserved on a few levels! No husband=no frown lines (LOL) and definitely LOW mileage! My only wish is that I had done this at a younger age. Boogles the mind to think of all I could have accomplished! At my age now, I have much loftier and more realistic goals to achieve. And I am doing it at a very good pace. Not bad for an old broad!
Just a quick comment here on something I read above to keep in mind...
If you look at reviews especially on this site, the young spinners seem to be the highest in demand..
You certainly can't tell who is in demand by the number of reviews someone gets. For some reason the men seem to not want to post reviews for us ladies over 30+. I have seen several hobbyist on here more than once and never gotten a review from them, yet they break their necks to post reviews on the young spinner types. Even use me as a reference to see the young ones..lol. And then they still come see me for more. It is just human for the men to like to brag about their dates with the young HOTT girls. But it doesn't mean that the older providers aren't doing just as well. Actually, right now, my business couldn't be any better or I would need two of me...seriously. I think that if a mature provider offers great service and takes pride in her looks and attitude, she can provide as long as she wants.
