To all the providers out there, I love you but...

Ladies,
Please do not take this wrong. I am not trying to offend anyone but I want to offer several suggestions that would help me as a hobbyist (as well as others). I may be the only one that would like to see the following suggestions implemented but I doubt it. These could be placed in your sig line so you would not have to type them in every time. A plus to including them in your sig line is it would show up each time you posted. So if you post in a co-ed thread you may draw the interest of someone that missed your ad.

1. When placing an ad please include one of the following:
a. A few pictures.
b. A link to your web site or showcase.
c. A brief description. “Petite blonde, 5’-0”, 108 lbs, 34-22-35”

2. An acceptable time to call. If you put in your ad 24-7 then don’t be pissed if I call at 7:00 in the morning. If you don’t want to be bothered when you go to bed turn your phone off or place on silent. I am an early morning person but I am always reluctant to call to early. If you don’t want to be called before 9:00AM or after 10:00PM please say so.

3. Have your phone ringer be just that, a ringer. It seems more providers are using some awful music as their ringer. Even if it is a song I like the quality of the phone speakers makes it painful to listen to 30 seconds of static. If it is some ghetto sounding rap shit I hang up. I have heard some music playing and I could hear they provider talking in the back ground. Not good.

To all of you that already do this, thank you.

I gotta go along with Budman on this one. We are men, so eye candy is important to most of us. But intelligence counts equally, to some of us at least.

The ads which don't include pics aren't great, but if you don't at least provide a description of yourself you're dead.

The other ads that leave me shaking my head, usually on Backpage, are the ones with titles such as "Best Ass in Town"--then only has pics of your boobs. Or vice versa. I mean really? Why don't you just say dumbest ass in town?

The biggest issue I have is not stating your availability.
I have made up to 6 calls, PM's or emails only to have none returned.
This happens not only with providers I'd like to meet, but with some I've visited before.

If you are a student or a part-time provider please tell us in your ad or sig. line.

Often I am looking for short notice encounters.

I agree, thanks for the feed back, as providers we try our best to answer all email, or at least I do.. will make sure I make your suggestions known on mine..Thanks

Why don't you just say dumbest ass in town? Originally Posted by barneyrubble

Classic!

I somewhat agree. At the very least an accurate description and some sort of availability guidance would be great. Without pictures I usually won't call unless there is a very good description along with reviews to go by.

IMO the more info the better. If you are so inclined listing the activities available is great. I know many providers are uncomfortable doing this and most of the time you can gather that info from reviews. I want to know what you look like. I don't need to research the activities of a BBW because that is not what I'm interested in. On the other hand if I see a provider's description as "spinner" or "36-22-36" I will do more research. I love Peachquiver's ads. http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=78036 Her ads give me all the info needed to make a decision. Many times I will by pass a provider because her ad tells me nothing and I don't want to spend time researching her only to find out she is not what I'm looking for in the looks department. It may be because I'm lazy or maybe the site is running slow or my internet access is not working great or maybe I just don't have the time. Providers, you are trying to sell us on a visit with you. Please put some info in your ad to make us want to pick up the phone or at least do a little more research.

....as providers we try our best to answer all email, or at least I do. Originally Posted by Topless Model

Really?.....

I agree with golfnwine. Not returning emails, texts or other messages is frustrating. People are fired for not returning messages and I have gotten to the point that I vote with my hard earned dollars elsewhere when my messages aren't answered in 24 hours.

The biggest issue I have is not stating your availability.
I have made up to 6 calls, PM's or emails only to have none returned.
This happens not only with providers I'd like to meet, but with some I've visited before.

If you are a student or a part-time provider please tell us in your ad or sig. line.

Often I am looking for short notice encounters. Originally Posted by golfnwine

I appreciate Budmans pointers. I will do my best to change my advertisements. Budman, do you know WHY a lot of ladies don't put all of that on their advertisements? I know quite a few ladies who already have that information on their website, and they feel it is redundant. Also, there are NUMEROUS men who don't READ what we type. For me, I put a lot of effort into my advertisements and webpage to make sure that the client has all the information he needs. But it CAN feel like I am wasting my energy.

Example: I clearly post my rates in all of my advertisements, on my webpage, AND again in "the confirmation email" that I send. Today, I had a gentleman ask me at the end of the session, "how much is it again?"


Golfnwine: I am going to play the Devil's Advocate. Lets say that I am on a 5 hour date, and you email me. I will tell you right now that I REFUSE to check my email/phone when I am on a date. Sure, I might be able to meet you after my 5 hour date, but I am NOT going to be able to get back with you until my time with my date is over.


Sometimes I get some really nasty emails from people. They will email at 9am, 10am, and again at 11. By 11am, they are FURIOUS that I haven't gotten back with them. Sometimes I need the benefit of the doubt.


Hey, there is always room for improvement. I think its great that you guys tactfully let us know where we can improve. Thank you for the constructive criticism.

I appreciate Budmans pointers. I will do my best to change my advertisements. Budman, do you know WHY a lot of ladies don't put all of that on their advertisements? I know quite a few ladies who already have that information on their website, and they feel it is redundant. Also, there are NUMEROUS men who don't READ what we type. For me, I put a lot of effort into my advertisements and webpage to make sure that the client has all the information he needs. But it CAN feel like I am wasting my energy.
Originally Posted by brittanylennox

What she said ^.

KKA
XOXO

I appreciate Budmans pointers. I will do my best to change my advertisements. Budman, do you know WHY a lot of ladies don't put all of that on their advertisements? I know quite a few ladies who already have that information on their website, and they feel it is redundant. Also, there are NUMEROUS men who don't READ what we type. For me, I put a lot of effort into my advertisements and webpage to make sure that the client has all the information he needs. But it CAN feel like I am wasting my energy.

Example: I clearly post my rates in all of my advertisements, on my webpage, AND again in "the confirmation email" that I send. Today, I had a gentleman ask me at the end of the session, "how much is it again?"


Golfnwine: I am going to play the Devil's Advocate. Lets say that I am on a 5 hour date, and you email me. I will tell you right now that I REFUSE to check my email/phone when I am on a date. Sure, I might be able to meet you after my 5 hour date, but I am NOT going to be able to get back with you until my time with my date is over.


Sometimes I get some really nasty emails from people. They will email at 9am, 10am, and again at 11. By 11am, they are FURIOUS that I haven't gotten back with them. Sometimes I need the benefit of the doubt.


Hey, there is always room for improvement. I think its great that you guys tactfully let us know where we can improve. Thank you for the constructive criticism. Originally Posted by brittanylennox

I want to address a couple of your points. My main issue is with providers that place an ad and all it says is "Hi, I'm back. Have you missed me. Give me a call XXX-XXXX" or something along those lines. There is no link to a web site, no showcase and absolutly no description. I don't know if she is a 19 year old spinner or old enough to be my grandmother. Some on here may know her and that is fine but our membership has grown quite a bit this year and many of us may not know anything about you. My request to the providers is if you don't have a web site or showcase please put your description in your sig line.

Brittany, it does seem odd that someone would ask the rate at the end of the session. My guess is he was looking for a discount. If your ad stated 200 per hour and you told him it was 180 he would have saved 20. Another possibility is some providers post different rates on different sites or maybe a special had been posted recently. It does seem like this should have been discussed when scheduling the appointment. I do know that many times I have left messages for providers and when they finally return my call I don't remember the specifics of the ad. In these cases I will ask about rates, ect... Another thing to keep in mind is many times a hobbyist may not be able to place a call to a provider while he is in front of his computer. We may need to write a few numbers down and step out of our office to place the calls.

Thanks for replying.

Brittany,
Was this the guy asking about rates?

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6695715/

I agree ... We put alot of information in our ads to recieve questions like this:

1) what are your rates?
2) do you have more pictures
3) Are you available in 5 minutes?
4) this is a direct quote: "Daaaamn baby dat ass is FAT... what i gotta do to holla at shoo shortie

5) do you do outcalls
6) Do you have any specials right now
7) so you do fetishes and shit

These are all daily questions we get when we answer the phone. Or at least me. I understand men are visual creatures... but when you only look for a pic and a number its gets frustrating that we literally put all the info there, and then get asked.

Another point, not answering the phone: Here is how it goes... I put up an ad. I get a phone call for a date. I am in that date so now I can't answer the phone. I can't pull my ad down either. So now my ringer is off and I am preoccupied. When I am done, if it has been more than an hr since the missed call and there is no voicemail with instructions on when I can return the call I do not return the call. I do not know where that person is now or what they are doing, who they are with.. and the last thing I want to do it cause them problems.

Another thing that will make me NEVER call someone back is if they call my phone over and over and over back to back. That is psycho. It drives me crazy. True story: I worked in Mcallen yesterday. Got a call around lunch time and asked for references. He said he didnt have any so I apologized that I wouldnt be able to take the appt. He then called my phone a record number of 42 times in a row and sent me 10 text messages. I was LIVID, if i wanted all that I would still be married lol.

So my best advice is this:

Read the ad, if the information is truly not there or in a website she provides, then there is a case. And when you call, please leave a voicemail stating when is it ok to call back. If that time frame is 10-15 min.. dont be mad. When we dont call back that soon. We may be with someone... and how would you like it if while you were with a provider and she said... oh hang on i need to call this man back... he needs me to call back within 15 minutes. We try guys... we really do. But sometimes its impossible.

Jezabelle,
My post was not directed at the providers that include web site, showcase, descriptions, ect... I am sure that all providers put up with alot of calls that are BS. I don't think that will ever change.

Here is an ad that tells me absolutly nothing. http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=78488

She may be the best provider in town but I think she would be better off taking a few minutes to tell us something about herself. This may eliminate some of the questions that are sure to come up. Such as, what do you look like, how tall are you, howmuch do you weigh, what's you hair color, long or short hair, ......

Again, this is something that can be put in the sig line one time so you will not have to type out the info each time you place an ad. Many providers already do this and please know that it is greatly appreciated by me as well as others.

Brittany,
Was this the guy asking about rates?

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6695715/ Originally Posted by Budman

OMG! That's the guy down to the last detail! TFF