OK.

I never start threads..I usually leave that up to the gods above. BUT. I have wanted this answered for years now. WHY CANT WE BE SEEN IN INDY SECTION?? IT IS SOOOO UNFAIR TO MY GIRLS AND NOW MORE THAN EVER THE INDIES IM ASSISTING IN NOLA!! By the time they get enough notice (which we ALL know is a 3rd of the other thread) they leave...unknown..its a good thing i have a client base but really?? WHATS THE DIF BETWEEN ME AND A SO CALLED ASSISTANT? Why does M madison get full viewing when I have been here since day one? SAME with p411...WHY AM I to PAY 20 PER GIRL>>WHEN EVERYONE ELSE SKIRTS AROUND AND IS FREE.. Letting yall know..this is beginning to not be worth it. I WAS ALWAYS HERE FOR INDYS AND NON.(not my fault they figured out paying me was easier and safer) ..I know the rant but this REALLY hurts us.. I WILL GO SNEAKY IF I HAVE TO..13 YEARS LATER. How bout a bit of RESPECT and a poll.. YES A POLL..I will make sure we ALWAYS put up our rep on top in number and website address... HOW DO YALL FEEL?? I cant keep covering WELL KNOWN INDYS JUST CAUSE THEY PICK ME.. EXAMPLE SOPHIA>>RAQUEL TIA>>these are just the last 3.. POLL?? ANYONE KNOW HOW?? THANK YOU ANNIE

So what you are saying is, you would like to pocket more money from the girls you represent and would like the rules changed so that you are able to do so? I am quite sure that you make plenty of money for someone who gets to sit around, answer the phone, pay no real expenses and have girls give her money. You are already the most expensive "answering service" in the south. Perhaps you could do more work to lift your bottom line instead of coming here and asking everyone to make things easier and cheaper for you. You are the one who claims to be an AGENCY, so accept it and move on, seems to me you want to have your cake and eat it too. If you want to get Indy benefits then get out from behind that computer, get on the damn bed, and do the job you expect your girls to do. I have no idea why you would come here to complain about p411, take it up with them. Times are hard for everyone, so may I suggest maybe pinching some pennies elsewhere, maybe a cheaper brand of vodka?

For Annie!

ASSHOLE? I think not... and just cause you've had a bad run dont try to drag it out on me boo... I'll leave ya stinking.. .. annie

It was more for the girls anyway..idiot.. annie

I see where Annie is coming from. Many girls have assistants. Unless you kidnap little girls and hold them hostage in a hotel room. it's hard to deal with young providers. They make a few bucks and disappear.
Lovely Callie was one of the rare exceptions. Young, smart, hot , and honest! Most of these girls need to be chased down for money! It's not a cushy gig trying to wrangle hookers, I assure you.

I see where Annie is coming from. Many girls have assistants. Unless you kidnap little girls and hold them hostage in a hotel room. it's hard to deal with young providers. They make a few bucks and disappear.
Lovely Callie was one of the rare exceptions. Young, smart, hot , and honest! Most of these girls need to be chased down for money! It's not a cushy gig trying to wrangle hookers, I assure you. Originally Posted by heidilynnla

Annie to add a poll go to the thread tools and select add a poll. I don't think you can add one after you've started the thread. So, either start a new thread or send me (or PD or Ike) the poll question(s) and add it for you.
Sorry couldn't help myself.

Wiley, are u indicating u want a cat or something else lol?

I can't believe I'm about to say this but:

1. I fully understand what Annie is saying. (Amazing)
2. I agree with her points.
3. I'm not sure the benefit of the agency section.

note I have three reviews of agency girls in the houston section that are in indy. Everyone reviews those girls as indy even though most know it is an agency.

I have three new reviews of agency girls I put in the agency section....mainly to promote the new agency.

Somewhere I read that in the agency review there is a link to the agency but I haven't studied it.

I get messages every day asking If I am santa clause, but I searched the entire board for the guy and the only place I see him even mentioned is from you ladies who post the hell out of the board. Honestly just seems like a lot of you older ladies are in love with the guy and cant stop thinking about him. Nobody else even brings it up except you and your knights. I don't think any of you "Spinsters Club" ladies have a clue of what is going on and just stir shit to see what floats.
For the record and not because it matters, I am a handicapped married guy on SS in Louisiana, my wife knows I hobby and that is the gods honest truth. Be happy to whip out my handicapped ID card along with my dick so you can suck on it! Just because I do not agree with the "Spinsters Club" does not mean I am Mr. Xmas. Oh and one more thing, I have fucked quite a few of the regular posting ladies here so when I talk I damn sure know what I am talking about, odd thing is I have yet to do an elf. A bunch of them just went " I know who he is now" since I said handicapped. One of the ladies that rags on me I have seen and she Invited me here! Shows how much the "Spinsters Club" knows.
If you want Indy status then lose the pimp, husband, manager, girlfriend, roomie whatever. Drive your bf's car to an appointment once? Not Indy. He take the photos you use for advertising? Not Indy. You see where I am going with this. Shit we have providers on this very board who have openly told everyone for years how they support, live with ,travel with, and are helped in the business by their husbands and boyfriends who pretty much handle everything except the swallowing and yet that is Indy? Keep thinking you are Indy until you get popped and they arrest his ass for promotion for helping you to be a provider.
Of course if the folks here went by the facts, then the Indy section would have cobwebs. Instead here we are discussing ways to make even more folks part of the Indy benefits, really? Sounds like another facet of "She does it why cant I?"

U act like him..but he would actually not care about this thread. So therefore I think ur correct YOUR JUST PATHETIC ATTEMPT AT BEING HIM lol (god thats a new low..A WANNA BE SANTA !! LOL) Back to what i was asking.. the poll question would be. IF A GIRL WHO IS INDY AND TRAVELLING AND ASKS FOR ASSISTANCE WHILE HERE FOR WHATEVER REASON (HAPPENS ALL THE FREAKING TIME THEY COME AND GET STUCK) SHOULDNT HER REVIEWS GO IN THE INDY SECTION WHERE THE QUICKLY GET 10 TIMES THE VIEWINGS?? ITS REALLY NOT FAIR THEY ARE NOT EVEN FOUND HALF THE TIME TIL GONE..I GET HOW MANY CALLS FOR RAQUEL? SOPHIA?? AND THEY HAVE BEEN GONE AND I TELL THEM DONT COME BACK TIL OCT..NOV. IT DRIVES THEM NUTS THAT WITH ME ASSISTING THEM THEY GO IN AGENCY SECTION..BUT EVERYWHERE ELSE THEY ASK FOR LOCAL HELP THEY GO IN INDY VIEWS.. I THINK IF A GIRL IS NOT EVEN A PART TIME EMPLOYEE OF CC'S THEY SHOULD GO IN INDY.(JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM THERE!) THANK YOU FOR INPUT... WILEY VERY CUTE...LOL ANNIE

"Indy" means "Independent"

"Agency" means "Agency" - they are cats and dogs - you don't put the dogs in the same cage with the pussies.

An "assistant" - is an "assistant" - and works for the provider, at the pleasure of the provider.

An agency "manager" - is a "boss" - and the girls work for the "boss" - at the "bosses" pleasure.

Annie, if you're only an "assistant" then why are you still hammering Bailey and Epiphany on your website? They left you ages ago and yet you still have a "bad apples" page up proclaiming them thieves. Nobody believes it anymore and both girls have EXCELLENT reviews. Move on with life and take down the grudge page Annie - it only makes you look bad - no one cares anymore so the "bad apples" page is only getting you bad press. It only re-enforces the "vindictive pimp" image that I know you want nothing to do with, because it isn't an accurate representation of who you are.

So why not take the high road here and let it go?

This is just constructive advice. I'm not flaming here.

IF A GIRL WHO IS INDY AND TRAVELLING AND ASKS FOR ASSISTANCE WHILE HERE FOR WHATEVER REASON SHOULDNT HER REVIEWS GO IN THE INDY SECTION WHERE THE QUICKLY GET 10 TIMES THE VIEWINGS?? Originally Posted by annie@christophers

ANSWER: No

Pimped is Pimped, if they score a review while you are pimping them, then they are NOT Indy. When they return to their Indy non-pimped ways after you pimp them out, then by all means, reviews should go to Indy section. If you do not want to be tied to these girls as their pimp then stop pimping them. If you don't want to stop pimping them then accept that their damn reviews go in the pimped section attached to your pimp kingdom.

I like the distinction between agency and indy forums. Why...I have no real idea. I just like it. But then again, that is the only way I have known it.

Annie,

I've seen photos here and there on your site of Independent girls who have come to you for help. It's great that you help them get some business, but if they're going through you and you're getting a cut then they're working for an agency. Plus, anybody who sees a girl on your site, or any guy who makes the arrangement through you probably has no idea that the girl is an independent provider who just happens to be getting help from you at the moment, so he naturally would post a review in the agency section. Also, don't you give these girls different names when they work for you? Unless a guy has seen the girl's photos or ads as an indy girl or unless the girl tells the guy she's indy how would he know?

I've never seen a review of any of your agency girls and known they were independent girls you were helping. If you're advertising for them, especially under different names, it is assumed they work for you and they will be reviewed as agency girls.

When we see agency reviews, we usually set up a profile for the girl and assign the review to her as well as to the agency, so both the girl and the agency are linked to the review. But, if the girl is an indy and we have no idea, whatever name you list her as and the guy reviews her under gets credit for the review.