Flakes and NCNS (Hobbyist and Providers)

It has come to my attention that shockingly not only are some providers flakes but there are some hobbyist that are flakes to (SHOCKER!!!). lol

Ladies is this alert material, powder room, open forum or a PM situation if you were flaked on or NCNS by a hobbyist?

Guys, the same question to you is this an alert material, mens only, or open forum.

I have seen and heard many hobbyist speak about providers flaking or NCNS for whatever reason and I have heard the same regarding Hobbyist as well. Its a bit frustrating on both parts and as for the ladies that do it I feel they need to be called out on it and that its a part of customer retention and referrals. To me if something comes up be open about it but if there is no communication at all or an apology then my thoughts are that others need to know about it especially since a review can't be done after all it is apart of the experience.

My 2cents
Goodbye Blue Sky's Avatar
NCNS and flaking are not ALERTS, the answer was obvious and unnecessary! The rest of the options are fair game. The question is when it is best to do? Personally I choose to give it 48hrs and see what comes of it, never know if it might be worth your trouble. The board isn't going anywhere, you can blast their ass anytime.
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NCNS and flaking are not ALERTS, the answer was obvious and unnecessary! The rest of the options are fair game. The question is when it is best to do? Personally I choose to give it 48hrs and see what comes of it, never know if it might be worth your trouble. The board isn't going anywhere, you can blast their ass anytime. Originally Posted by Goodbye Blue Sky

While they are not "alerts" to be posted in the alert section..it is something others should be aware of so alerting others in the private forum is a good idea or in coed..I have been nc/ns by both hobbiest and provider.. I will wait 48 hrs before posting about it if i hear nothing..if they reply with a real honest reason I forgive and try again but if the excuse is so asinine I let the ladies know if they ask for a ref...

I dont get why some think it is so hard to give a heads up...REALLY???? you cant CALL/TEXT/YAHOO/PM..really it takes 30 seconds or less...It is disrespectful and just plain rude to waste someones time...In all the years I have been doing this I have not nc/ns ANYONE....
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  • onei
  • 01-06-2014, 09:58 PM
Exactly Victoria. NCNS sucks yet some (on both sides) have absolutely zero respect for others. That is why I started the thread on Electricfeelnow and her repeated NCNS. But of course the WKs quickly jumped out of the wood works and come to her defense, as well as a few providers who have zero positive input or knowledge of the situation.

It "seems" she straightened out her game, but she has yet to take ownership of her actions or even admit that she has left several guys stranded after driving across town to see her. It pisses me off to be NCNS'd and if it happens just once anymore, I'll never see her (whichever provider it may be) again but I will certainly let others know.

Just as there is no excuse for a provider to NCNS (meaning at least take the time to respond, as you said in 48-hrs with some form of reasonable explanation — and not the car, phone or mom dying again), there is no excuse for a hobbyist to NCNS. I was recently asked by a provider to cancel an appointment and come see her instead. I will not do that. Not only did I think it was unprofessional for her to do so, I also decided that I would never see her as a result.
movin on's Avatar
I for one feel like I have got to have some of the worst luck when it comes to being able to actually meet a provider that I have set my sight on. I feel my word is good as gold and in years of hobbying I have canceled only maybe once, and this was only due to miscommunication coming from the provider. I surely know it sucks to have your time wasted not to mention just being able to enjoy what you have set your sight on and are looking forward to. A provider should definitely take owner ship of how she services the community as well as the hobbyists taking responsibility for being a good customer. I very recently was canceled on and trying to schedule something at the last minute with another provider isn't the easiest thing to do. I was lucky to find a decent provider that posted on backpage. People don't exactly always have the time to just drop what they are doing(providers and hobbyists) and make time for a session so when I clear my schedule to see a provider it is open for just that. If I knew I wasn't going to be able to make it I would let the provider know asap out of consideration so she could change her plans as I would if she canceled on me. We should keep honest, open communication with and on each other always. Now letting each other know asap is just one way we could help each other out. Being able to have at least a decent session in place of the one you had planned helps. It does help to have plenty of providers as known contacts so that you can schedule on short notice but I for one sometimes feel like - "where are all the good providers?" I'm not saying it doesn't happen the other way with the ladies saying "where are all the good hobbyists?" but from my experience the fault has been on not me. Maybe we should be asking if anyone knows of any good Austin providers that have open availability?
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  • onei
  • 01-07-2014, 08:27 AM
Maybe we should be asking if anyone knows of any good Austin providers that have open availability? Originally Posted by movin on
There are! That is for sure. Here is the deal, and it is a two way street. It takes time for a provider to properly prepare for a session … that is, if she intends to make it the best she can (and I'm not going to presume that I know all that goes into it, as I don't) :-) At the same time, us guys expend a lot of time and energy making things work so we can get away. For some there is scheduling that has to be shuffled around, some need to plan days in advance, as it is the only opportunity all week to play, then there is making the initial contact and scheduling, and getting oneself ready. Then the drive, for some, like me, it's usually a 30-min drive anywhere I go.

When NightmareSally aka:Electricfeelnow played the NCNS game with me, I had set the date the day before. Then the morning of I sent her a txt asking her to confirm before I made the 30-40 min drive one-way to see her. I really was looking forward to seeing her again as I had enjoyed being with her the month before. She actually replied to my txt with "confirmed". The appt was for something like 10:00am and this was 8:00am. So I got in the shower, cleaned up, dressed and headed out. Then when I got there, nothing! I waited for over 30 min, sent about 3-4 texts and then called a couple of times. Finally I told her I was leaving and that I would be posting that she had done that. Thus started what is now between her and me, and what will continue … she is a flake who has yet to apologize, take ownership, address, acknowledge or even care that she has done this multiple times to several guys and I refuse to stop warning guys of her game.

My time is money, and just as it costs a provider to have someone NCNS them, I have expended a lot of time, effort, energy, sometimes reworking schedules, take time from work, take time to drive, etc, etc. NCNS sucks for everyone involved and instead of WKs coming on hoping to get a little extra pussy by defending "their girl" it would be great to see enough guys with the balls to point out these inconsiderate providers who play this game. AND providers should equally point out the guys who have wasted their time, costing them money. With today's Information age, there is absolutely no excuse for this level of "I-don't-give-a-rats-ass" attitude.
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It has come to my attention that shockingly not only are some providers flakes but there are some hobbyist that are flakes to (SHOCKER!!!). lol

Ladies is this alert material, powder room, open forum or a PM situation if you were flaked on or NCNS by a hobbyist?

Guys, the same question to you is this an alert material, mens only, or open forum. Originally Posted by Austins1hobby
I don't think a NCNS is alert material and starting a thread in the mens only or open forum is useless. It will be forgotten in a couple of weeks. I wonder how often NCNS happen to providers. I've never NCNS a providers and don't see it ever happening. If I did, I would definitely call, email, text or PM her with an hour to let her know what happened. It called respect or common courtesy. When I'm horny and need pussy, the last thing on my mind is a NCNS.

NCNS are worst than a NO review. What Eccie needs is a TCB feature on every profile. If a provider has a few NCNS or ignoring PM listed on her profile, I think it will cut back on the NCNS and terrible TCB. I know I'm not the only one who notice that rates are the highest they have every been and Provider TCB is probably the worst ever.
RALPHEY BOY's Avatar
Bad TCB and NCNS are the reasons why I seldom even try to see a new girl, would rather have a regular cancel on me with real reasons than some flakey girl who is new and uses the ole:

'My grandmother just flew from in Oslo unannounced and she is at ABIA waiting on me"
movin on's Avatar
Yea Eccie should have a TCB feature, we should be able to see if they have NCNS or ignoring PM problem! Great idea
LuvThatKitty's Avatar
I dont get why some think it is so hard to give a heads up...REALLY???? you cant CALL/TEXT/YAHOO/PM..really it takes 30 seconds or less...It is disrespectful and just plain rude to waste someones time...In all the years I have been doing this I have not nc/ns ANYONE.... Originally Posted by VictoriaLyn
Exactly! And good for you Vicki.
NCNS are worst than a NO review. What Eccie needs is a TCB feature on every profile. If a provider has a few NCNS or ignoring PM listed on her profile, I think it will cut back on the NCNS and terrible TCB. I know I'm not the only one who notice that rates are the highest they have every been and Provider TCB is probably the worst ever. Originally Posted by atxguy2006
I love that idea. Too bad they can't just make it happen.
It would be nice to see a ad pop on there showcase and see BAM they have had 4 NCNS that would really make ppl live up to customer service.
It's funny that only one provider has chimed in on this issue. I know they get flakes call and/or NCNS on.

For a hobbyist to NCNS or be flakey they should be put on blast as well as the provider. I know I have not ever flaked on someone or cancelled I may have rescheduled but that's about it. But I understand there are many hobbyist that only look and when it comes to actually spending money they flake.

Answering PM's is another soar subject. I understand some ladies get a full inbox daily but sending a simple reply to most could help there chances of scheduling even if its a day or two later just my thoughts. It's a bit nerve racking to see a provider online and know for a fact they are online by them posting or replying to a thread but they can't take a few min to reply even if its "sorry I am busy I can message you when I am free if you like", something that simple would give me something.

My2cents
feel you Austin1hobby. as it should go for the guys... ive had like three in a row.... now calling names....... one actually left his phone at home and his daughter answered it! OMFG!!!
So now I know it has happen to two young ladies. I know some check references and look at reviews and all that but is that the reason why most do not see newbies because they are more or less flakes and known for NCNS?
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  • Loxly
  • 01-07-2014, 06:00 PM
I seriously doubt that the system is going to be revamped to flag NCNSs.

As with another topic I'd suggest the following format be used for NCNS in the topic title when placed in CO-ED.

NCNS - BettyBlowUp

Then state your case in the body of the topic.

Crickets, Lions, Tigers and Bears. I'm texting but no hide or hair of this broad!, etc. etc. etc.

This would enable you to do a focused search specifically for NCNSs, either for a partucular handle or just all of the NCNSs. Of course if it's not in the title then it won't work. They should come up in date order.

As my forebearers might say, "Vee haft our vays!"