Trump Says DEI just killed 60 people

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You’re not refuting anything I said even though you clearly think you are. Try reading and comprehending. It’ll take you far and you’ll get that the manager chose to have one person working because he believed traffic volume was low enough to have one person rather than two. It had nothing to do with not having enough ATCs. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Was this your comment?
"Wash National was not understaffed. So hiring Air Traffic Controllers had nothing to do with this accident. Nice try to blame Biden though."


Can you read ? You apparently are the one who can't comprehend


“The position configuration was not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic,” the report said.
While the cause of the fatal collision is still under investigation, a report revealed that an air traffic controller was given the job of two people after one worker clocked off early, according to a report.
Airplane and helicopter traffic is normally handled by two separate controllers until 9:30 p.m., but a supervisor allegedly merged the two jobs before the allotted changeover time, a source told The New York Times. A preliminary Federal Aviation Administration report concluded that staffing levels were “not normal” at the time.

A report by the Federal Aviation Administration says staffing in the air traffic control tower was “not normal” at the time of the midair collision near Washington.
The report was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.
One air traffic controller was doing work normally assigned to two people in the tower at Reagan National when the collision happened, according to a report by the Federal Aviation Administration obtained by The Associated Press.
an internal preliminary Federal Aviation Administration report says staffing was “not normal for the time of day and volume of traffic.”
Go back and read what I said. Then think about what I said. This is very simple though you don’t seem to comprehend it.
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Many of you continuing to stray off topic

Let's repeat the facts

With no evidence whatsoever Trump implied that DEI was to blame for this Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo
Yeah, threads tend to get quickly derailed in this forum when Trumpettes comically try to defend their dipshit geriatric leader. And then others get off track going back and forth with them instead of just ignoring them and not playing their stupid ass deflection game.

I am not sure what is so hard about just ignoring a thread instead of trying to hijack the fuck out of it because you don't like reading anything negative about King Fat Ass and his stupid and irresponsible words connecting DEI to this tragedy (which is the topic).
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Go back and read what I said. Then think about what I said. This is very simple though you don’t seem to comprehend it. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Go back and look at your post. Don't you understand what you post
"Wash National was not understaffed. You said this,correct or is someone posting with your name.
I post 5 example that state your wrong, I could have posted 10+ They were understaffed. They didn't have enough people in the control tower. Why can't you understand that

You said it wasn't understaffed. At least 5 agencies who are the experts state you are wrong.
Still I ask the question, were the helicopter pilots - who Trump is now blaming - were DEI hires? Originally Posted by 1blackman1
The army pilots were reportedly well-trained. Would it be ironic if they joined during the first Trump term?

For those leaning into the ATC staffing info, did you read where ATC asks "do you have the CBJ in sight?" The helicopter pilot confirms he sees the CRJ and requests "visual separation" then crashes into the plane 20 seconds later.
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Go back and look at your post. Don't you understand what you post
"Wash National was not understaffed. You said this,correct or is someone posting with your name.
I post 5 example that state your wrong, I could have posted 10+ They were understaffed. They didn't have enough people in the control tower. Why can't you understand that

You said it wasn't understaffed. At least 5 agencies who are the experts state you are wrong. Originally Posted by tman1847

What is it with you ?


The thread is about Trump making completely inappropriate remarks.
Go back and look at your post. Don't you understand what you post
"Wash National was not understaffed. You said this,correct or is someone posting with your name.
I post 5 example that state your wrong, I could have posted 10+ They were understaffed. They didn't have enough people in the control tower. Why can't you understand that

You said it wasn't understaffed. At least 5 agencies who are the experts state you are wrong. Originally Posted by tman1847
Washington National Airport was not understaffed. They have a cadre of ATCs. They only had a few job openings. The reason their was not two people working the two stations at the tower was a management choice rather than a lack of available staff. Yes, one person was working two stations because the manager felt that the volume was low and decided to have one person either leave or not come in. This has been stated to be common practice. Nothing I said was incorrect. However, you are so hellbent on trying to incorrectly make a point that your reading comprehension is nil. Go back and read my posts. They are clear as day.

Now, to the topic, was DEI the issue here or was Trump lying and making false claims?
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To put this ridiculous detour to bed the ATC was communicating with the helicopter. Phrases like "Do you see him ?" and "pass behind" have been mentioned from the recordings.

So the control tower was able to its job.
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How many times do we gotta do this? Waz for Mod!

Many of you continuing to stray off topic

Let's repeat the facts

With no evidence whatsoever Trump implied that DEI was to blame for this

And when asked how he determined that he said it was because he had "common sense"

That would be hysterical if all of these people had not died

He's a lying fuck. Always. Can't help himself. Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo
The attempts to deflect and derail the thread topic are as bad as what Trump has tried to do. Originally Posted by VitaMan
They learned from their master Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo
To put this ridiculous detour to bed the ATC was communicating with the helicopter. Phrases like "Do you see him ?" and "pass behind" have been mentioned from the recordings.

So the control tower was able to its job. Originally Posted by VitaMan

Not necessarily.


More than likely more than one thing went wrong causing the crash.
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tman1847's Avatar
Washington National Airport was not understaffed. They have a cadre of ATCs. They only had a few job openings. The reason their was not two people working the two stations at the tower was a management choice rather than a lack of available staff. Yes, one person was working two stations because the manager felt that the volume was low and decided to have one person either leave or not come in. This has been stated to be common practice. Nothing I said was incorrect. However, you are so hellbent on trying to incorrectly make a point that your reading comprehension is nil. Go back and read my posts. They are clear as day.

Now, to the topic, was DEI the issue here or was Trump lying and making false claims? Originally Posted by 1blackman1
So now you had to switch to the "airport" isn't understaffed. Everybody knew the discussion was the "tower" was understaffed. Trying to divert a stupid post now.
Was it DEI? who knows. Doubt they will release the name of the Mgr. who did the scheduling. It was him/her/other that played a part in the tragedy
Goodness dude. You really don’t get anything. The ATCs at Wash National are not understaffed. I wasn’t and haven’t referred to anything but the ATCs. No one is discussing the number of bathroom cleaning staff. Put as simply as possible. The staff of air traffic controllers numbers are not the problem. They were not operating with one person doing two stations because they lacked enough ATCs. It was a choice by the manager to use one person because of flight volume. If you can’t comprehend this I can’t help you.

Now, if you think the manager’s race has something to do with whether he or she was competent to make the decision, I would suggest that DEI isn’t the issue but it’s likely you’re sexist or racist. Whether the manager is qualifies and well trained has nothing to with race or sex. That’s why the DEI boogeyman is simply a trope and really has no meaning.
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Goodness dude. You really don’t get anything. The ATCs at Wash National are not understaffed. I wasn’t and haven’t referred to anything but the ATCs. No one is discussing the number of bathroom cleaning staff. Put as simply as possible. The staff of air traffic controllers numbers are not the problem. They were not operating with one person doing two stations because they lacked enough ATCs. It was a choice by the manager to use one person because of flight volume. If you can’t comprehend this I can’t help you.

Now, if you think the manager’s race has something to do with whether he or she was competent to make the decision, I would suggest that DEI isn’t the issue but it’s likely you’re sexist or racist. Whether the manager is qualifies and well trained has nothing to with race or sex. That’s why the DEI boogeyman is simply a trope and really has no meaning. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
You make a stupid post dude, then try to divert. Why don't you understand that the control tower was understaffed at the time of the crash. Just trying to cover up a stupid post. Nobody gives a hoot how many total controllers they have. Then you start with the racist shit. I don't give a F if the manager was orange, he F Up. Got nothing to do with race. lacks intelligence.
TYour not capable of helping anyone with your posts
... Understaffed is just THAT - they didn't have the proper
number of people on... Usually two - yet onley one.

Is DEI the reason? ... Need to ask the FAA. ... Maybe Trump is correct.

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