Trump Derangement Syndrome, a frank discussion.

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  • Devo
  • 08-25-2025, 02:37 PM


Ok, I get it, at first it was a joke, and now 8 months into Trumps term, I am starting to think that TDS is really a mental health issue.

I am serious, this is not about a personal attack, its a dicussion, and I'd love some of the people who have it chime in ABOUT how Trump has affected them in their lives.

I think in the past decade, prior to the forced acceptance of trans people, Gerder Dysphoria was a real condition.

And now for Politically correct reasons I believe the liberal medical people refuse to accept TDS as a "Real" medical condition, especially when the symptoms are so repeatable in almost everyone suffering from it.

Anger, Hatred of him, calling for the death of Donald Trump, hatred of his supporters, acts of violence and battery.

You only have to watch the Echo Chamber threads that are dominating the forum, spewing nothing but hate, claim he shits all over his supporters, etc, etc, yada, yada, yada.

They alone show the same repetitive hatred going on in the posters lives, and it shows the same thing I SEE every day, in people I speak to, those who have attacked me for wearing a MAGA hat, or, confront others in public for doing so.

Facebook is full of examples, besides the ones I see in real life.

Doesn't the stress and anger harm you, I mean it can't be good for your health, physical and mental.

I have suffered from depression and anxiety at times in my life, and I have found that there is a magic drug called, "I don't give a fuck".

Its a place of acceptance, of accepting the things you can't change in life, because you can DO NOTHING ABOUT it.

Has TDS affected your family life, have you lost family and friends?

I have, life long friends who hate me because I chose to vote for whom I did, I didn't give them AIDS, I didn't point a gun at their balls and threaten to blow them off, I voted.

I have come to accept that, IDGAF.

From WIKI, proposed legislation that I find interesting, and probably a good starting point for Mental Health professionals to start with in defining this medical condition.

Proposed laws

A group of Minnesota Senate Republicans introduced a bill[49] in March 2025 that seeks to classify "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a mental illness and incorporate it into the state's legal definition through amended statutes.[30]

The bill has proposed that the "syndrome" as the "acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump" which should be recognized in legal and medical contexts.[50][15]

The bill also states that the symptoms may include "Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald Trump's behavior" which can manifest as "intense verbal hostility toward Trump" and "overt acts of aggression and violence" towards Trump and MAGA supporters.[30][15]

The Minnesota bill uses the same wording that Krauthammer used to describe Bush derangement syndrome.[15] A day after the bill was introducing in Minnesota,


U.S. Representative Warren Davidson of Ohio introduced a bill in May 2025 that would require the National Institutes of Health to study Trump derangement syndrome and report annually to Congress.

Davidson said "TDS has divided families, the country, and led to nationwide violence — including two assassination attempts on President Trump.

The TDS Research Act would require the NIH to study this toxic state of mind, so we can understand the root cause and identify solutions."[52]
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Ok, I get it, at first it was a joke, and now 8 months into Trumps term, I am starting to think that TDS is really a mental health issue.

I am serious, this is not about a personal attack, its a dicussion, and I'd love some of the people who have it chime in ABOUT how Trump has affected them in their lives.

I think in the past decade, prior to the forced acceptance of trans people, Gerder Dysphoria was a real condition.

And now for Politically correct reasons I believe the liberal medical people refuse to accept TDS as a "Real" medical condition, especially when the symptoms are so repeatable in almost everyone suffering from it.

Anger, Hatred of him, calling for the death of Donald Trump, hatred of his supporters, acts of violence and battery.

You only have to watch the Echo Chamber threads that are dominating the forum, spewing nothing but hate, claim he shits all over his supporters, etc, etc, yada, yada, yada.

They alone show the same repetitive hatred going on in the posters lives, and it shows the same thing I SEE every day, in people I speak to, those who have attacked me for wearing a MAGA hat, or, confront others in public for doing so.

Facebook is full of examples, besides the ones I see in real life.

Doesn't the stress and anger harm you, I mean it can't be good for your health, physical and mental.

I have suffered from depression and anxiety at times in my life, and I have found that there is a magic drug called, "I don't give a fuck".

Its a place of acceptance, of accepting the things you can't change in life, because you can DO NOTHING ABOUT it.

Has TDS affected your family life, have you lost family and friends?

I have, life long friends who hate me because I chose to vote for whom I did, I didn't give them AIDS, I didn't point a gun at their balls and threaten to blow them off, I voted.

I have come to accept that, IDGAF.

From WIKI, proposed legislation that I find interesting, and probably a good starting point for Mental Health professionals to start with in defining this medical condition.

Proposed laws

A group of Minnesota Senate Republicans introduced a bill[49] in March 2025 that seeks to classify "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a mental illness and incorporate it into the state's legal definition through amended statutes.[30]

The bill has proposed that the "syndrome" as the "acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump" which should be recognized in legal and medical contexts.[50][15]

The bill also states that the symptoms may include "Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald Trump's behavior" which can manifest as "intense verbal hostility toward Trump" and "overt acts of aggression and violence" towards Trump and MAGA supporters.[30][15]

The Minnesota bill uses the same wording that Krauthammer used to describe Bush derangement syndrome.[15] A day after the bill was introducing in Minnesota,


U.S. Representative Warren Davidson of Ohio introduced a bill in May 2025 that would require the National Institutes of Health to study Trump derangement syndrome and report annually to Congress.

Davidson said "TDS has divided families, the country, and led to nationwide violence — including two assassination attempts on President Trump.

The TDS Research Act would require the NIH to study this toxic state of mind, so we can understand the root cause and identify solutions."[52] Originally Posted by Devo

You've got to be fucking kidding!
HDGristle's Avatar
If you really do find it to be a mental health issue, why mention it? Aren't we prohibited from discussing or speculating on the health (mental or otherwise) of other members?
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  • Devo
  • 08-25-2025, 03:54 PM
If you really do find it to be a mental health issue, why mention it? Aren't we prohibited from discussing or speculating on the health (mental or otherwise) of other members? Originally Posted by HDGristle
Im not saying it exists, because as of now, it's not a defined medical condition.

Im stating that it should looked at.

And, looking for input on both sides.

I stated this not about a personal attack, if you want to chime in feel free.

Gristle, at least you give a fair account of what's behind your beliefs, and you make sensible posts with thought behind them, more debate than unhinged attacks and beliefs.

Have you lost people as I have over what should just be the end to an election.
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  • Devo
  • 08-25-2025, 04:14 PM
You've got to be fucking kidding! Originally Posted by Snafu412
No, I'm not.


From what you have seen, do you have any insight?

I have only witnessed the acts, had some sick folks make threats against me, and lost lifelong friends.

I don't understand their thoughts behind it, existing issues magnified by an election loss?

It's like there are two water supplies in this country and one of them is poisonous, but neither side knows which one they have.

I dont associate with any particular type of people, not Magas, not liberals, hell there is a group of Libertarians, that meet once a month, and I really dont care to meet them either.

I lived through 4 years of Joe, but I never outright hated the man, let alone his voters, we have choices, we dont always win, you get over it, and get back to life.

Why such hatred?

And is it an organic problem, or man created?
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  • Devo
  • 08-25-2025, 04:18 PM
To add, I also see this on gun forums, not just here.
Jacuzzme's Avatar
They should absolutely be given an ERPO.
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  • Devo
  • 08-25-2025, 06:42 PM
They should absolutely be given an ERPO. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
I don't know what that is, but, your thoughts on whether this is in fact a legitimate problem, or, does propaganda just focus on people that will react like this, and work very well.

Further, I really don't watch any newmedia, I read somethings every day and watch the news articles online, but I don't have access to CNN anymore, and I really can't see if they have become more vitriolic?

I think CBS has realized what they showing the public wasn't making money and driving viewers away, so I assumed their rhetoric may get toned down, and less angry.

In part, one of the issues is, what type of information is causing so many people to react so angrily, and even attempt assassinations?
HDGristle's Avatar
You really don't know what an ERPO is? He wants their guns taken away using red flag laws
Jacuzzme's Avatar
Well, yeah. It’s like you and eye love dealing hate but seem reasonably stable, just misguided. Unfortunately, you can’t say the same about a few others. Those loons shouldn’t be allowed near adult scissors. If there’s a handful just on this little piece of the interwebs, imagine how many there are in toto.
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Why are we having discussions about my mental stability whether its good, bad or indifferent? Or that of any other member?
Why are we having discussions about my mental stability whether its good, bad or indifferent? Or that of any other member? Originally Posted by HDGristle
Because if another mega gets banned this forum will die, and that will affect eccie's profit. So megas have a little bit freer reign
Jacuzzme's Avatar
Why are we having discussions about my mental stability whether its good, bad or indifferent? Or that of any other member? Originally Posted by HDGristle
It’s the thread’s topic, no? Syndrome, right there in the title, is medical terminology. Since admin hasn’t closed it, one would assume it’s fair game for discussion.
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  • Devo
  • Yesterday, 05:40 PM
Because if another mega gets banned this forum will die, and that will affect eccie's profit. So megas have a little bit freer reign Originally Posted by 1#Ratt
No, trust me,I've gotten my share of points, deserved them too.

If anything I think we get held to higher standard.
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  • Devo
  • Yesterday, 05:47 PM
It’s the thread’s topic, no? Syndrome, right there in the title, is medical terminology. Since admin hasn’t closed it, one would assume it’s fair game for discussion. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
I almost asked them to approve it, but I hoped we could have a discussion free from the usual stuff.

But, I have been thinking about how much Social media drives the rage.

I haven't seen much censorship in Facebook, and the false claims of what Trump is doing is nuts, same with the general conversations being out of control.

And how much the news media is driving it.

People are being directly fed lies and propaganda, and with every one having a phone it's a 24 hour pipeline into their brains.