Charlie Kirk Shot

Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist has just been shot dead in Utah. I don't know where we are headed at this point

Is anybody denying that the 2nd amendment ruined the country?
(Our founding fathers, in their in-infinite wisdom, have doomed us!)
Is anybody (with a straight face) ... denying that guns have ruined the country?

Is anybody denying that the 2nd amendment ruined the country?
(Our founding fathers, in their in-infinite wisdom, have doomed us!)
Is anybody (with a straight face) ... denying that guns have ruined the country? Originally Posted by victoryformation

No, not really. They never imagined it would be used to confer a private right of ownership. Only a collective right through the militia. I think you’re not giving them enough credit. An incredibly well educated a bright group, actually.

Is anybody denying that the 2nd amendment ruined the country?
(Our founding fathers, in their in-infinite wisdom, have doomed us!)
Is anybody (with a straight face) ... denying that guns have ruined the country? Originally Posted by victoryformation

I'm not here to debate amendments or the 2nd amendment specifically. I'm not an advocate of open carry or having access to them like a cookie in a shop either but this just isn't about that. This is clearly about a young guy who was in his prime being shut down for his views and support to the a particular group.

Since when did we start to shut down people for their beliefs and views? I don't know how this can be interpreted any other way.

Not a fan of mr. Kirk but a fan of the 1st amendment.

Violence is an unacceptable response to free speech.
We should all know this.


Related , the president's blaming rhetoric was pure shit.

A nutjob with a long gun and a scope!
(Only, in America!)
We can thank the founding fathers (and, the 2nd amendment .. for this one)!
Don't hold your breath ... there's only another senseless slaughter around the corner!

It's just fucking insane, that's it. The guy had 2 young daughters at home

It's just fucking insane, that's it. The guy had 2 young daughters at home Originally Posted by shauk1960

He was a shit person anyway. Always spouting off hateful and violent rhetoric. Now FixNews is telling its viewers to avenge his death. This will all end badly.

I didn’t always agree with some of the things that he said, but I did like the fact that he was not afraid to debate anyone. It’s really sad that we live in a country where because someone doesn’t agree with you, they use words like divisive and hate speech as an excuse to unalive you, that’s chicken shit to me. RIP Charlie Kirk.

I'm not here to debate amendments or the 2nd amendment specifically. I'm not an advocate of open carry or having access to them like a cookie in a shop either but this just isn't about that. This is clearly about a young guy who was in his prime being shut down for his views and support to the a particular group.

Since when did we start to shut down people for their beliefs and views? I don't know how this can be interpreted any other way. Originally Posted by shauk1960

Since the beginning of civilization. People have been killing people over their beliefs since the beginning of civilization. Same as they killed people over their skin color, the group they belong to, etc. this is nothing new, I don’t know why everyone’s acting surprised. Also, him being a husband and a father does not make him a good man. Plenty of men with a wife and children do and say terrible things. IMO, he was one of them. Shit, a lot of the men on this board are barebacking prostitutes without their wife’s knowledge and bringing them God knows what home. 😂

I didn’t always agree with some of the things that he said, but I did like the fact that he was not afraid to debate anyone. It’s really sad that we live in a country where because someone doesn’t agree with you, they use words like divisive and hate speech as an excuse to unalive you, that’s chicken shit to me. RIP Charlie Kirk. Originally Posted by DathBane1986

He wasn't a good debater though. He cherry picks his arguments, interrupts and plays to emotion.

It's like talking to a charismatic drunk at a bar who distorts facts and appeals to other drunks. These people will also argue all day and aren't afraid to debate others with the "prove it bro" attitude.

I tried listening to the guy with an open mind. He's good at politely stirring shit and playing to emotions on sensitive topics. Doesn't mean he deserves to go out JFK style though.

Also, him being a husband and a father does not make him a good man. Plenty of men with a wife and children do and say terrible things. IMO, he was one of them. Shit, a lot of the men on this board are barebacking prostitutes without their wife’s knowledge and bringing them God knows what home. �� Originally Posted by bushman2109

Have to agree with this. Having a family doesn't make a person saint. Though, Yes, its a loss for his children, but then so many parents have lost their children in school shootings. I would say, Prayers and Sympathies, next shooting please.....I know its cold, but to me its just another shooting in America. Either we have too many guns or too many sick people or too many of both in tight grip of each other. Either way its a failure of society.

He was a shit person anyway. Always spouting off hateful and violent rhetoric. Now FixNews is telling its viewers to avenge his death. This will all end badly. Originally Posted by Ralph Fults

what hateful and violent rhetoric? and FOX is not telling anyone to avenge Kirk. you made that up.

If shitty people deserve something like this for voicing their views, we wouldn't have 7B people on this planet

He was a shit person anyway. Always spouting off hateful and violent rhetoric. Now FixNews is telling its viewers to avenge his death. This will all end badly. Originally Posted by Ralph Fults

Like everywhere else, people have sucked up and taken this in a completely different context, I'm no way supporting his views or saying he was a saint among demons. But the never physically hurt anyone or tried to hurt, was always up for a debate (shitty or not) and doesn't deserved to be executed like that. He had a lot of problematic opinions but this will only radicalized folks even more