If you aren't checking references.....

Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Originally Posted by Wetwork Daddy

I'd stick with your bliss if I were you.

Clients trying to reinvent screening methods of experts who have been in the business for years will never be a productive topic of conversation.

I am sorry if I was unclear with regards to "ignorance is bliss."

I meant that for the guys, not the women, Lily.

I was suggesting that they might not want to probe too deeply into those conversations the ladies have about us as they screen. (Ignorance)

Provide the details the ladies want, then sit back and be happy they agreed to see us and treated you to a wonderful time. (Bliss)

Most appreciate instruction of Cunning Linguist. Where would any be without counsel of the wise to lead us. Without doubt, like virtue, ignorance is its own reward.

I am sorry if I was unclear with regards to "ignorance is bliss."

I meant that for the guys, not the women, Lily.

I was suggesting that they might not want to probe too deeply into those conversations the ladies have about us as they screen. (Ignorance)

Provide the details the ladies want, then sit back and be happy they agreed to see us and treated you to a wonderful time. (Bliss) Originally Posted by Wetwork Daddy

I don't know about you gents, but I could do without the transcripts of the conversations the ladies have as they screen us. Why put them in the awkward position where they have to tell any more white lies?

It really won't do me much good to hear:

"Well, he arrived on time and had the proper white envelope and even a little tip. He was polite, but a bit on the dull side. He was kind of flabby and out of shape. He was clean and had brushed his teeth, but he became sweaty quickly when he began groping and grunting on top of me. His DATY was passable, but he drools and slobbers when he goes down on you, so you might want just want to make him cum quickly with a blowjob since his dick is real small and trigger happy."

The reason people ask if they were screened is because they are trying to make sure that the lady they have chosen actually screens her clients and therefore is not working with l.e. It's a perfectly normal concern and I actually think more people should look into whether or not their providers screen.

How would asking that question help protect a gent from LE? Especially if they just lie as you have suggested some do, which I don't doubt you in the slightest. I have been in this game, well since some of you were still flirting in middle school, and have seen some really weird things over the decades.

I hope gents are doing more research than just the reference dance. There is a reason county clerks post all the municipal data on websites. Hell, if you are a little bit savvy, you can even find out what warrants were issued for wiring and stings at hotels. Not sure about Arkansas, but most other places court documents are public record. You just have to know what to look for and where to look.

Nobody said that's all they were doing, but making sure your lady screens is important in Arkansas.

Thanks Lily, a few folks filled me in on what you are talking about. I understand completely. Be vigilant and rigorous.

I am pretty sure everyone under the sun knows I screen more heavily than the average provider...that has nothing to do with it. Guys who often pull stupid crap only want say 2 certain providers they have behaved with to vouch for them....the ones they ripped off never get mentioned in a reference check, BUT they are listed on a 411 or Date-Check profile. When a guy tells me to call only 2 of 5 refs, you can bet those are NOT the ones I talk to first lol.

Many times after hearing who a guys was with, leads me to ask for more info. I am very selective about whom I will actually trust with knowing who I am seeing, and I don't really need the money bad enough to see a guy who has been with certain people.

Yes, ladies do need to have different forms of reference checking when the guy in question only has references and no P411 or Date-Check.

Congrats London on your accomplishment!!

Yes, ladies do need to have different forms of reference checking when the guy in question only has references and no P411 or Date-Check.

Congrats London on your accomplishment!! Originally Posted by shorty

Graduation at 7 and all moved in including paintings hung, curtains up not to obstruct my water view of course, and jacuzzi is almost ready to go!! OMG I love living on the water!!! See you guys next week!

. . . and I don't really need the money bad enough to see a guy who has been with certain people. Originally Posted by London Rayne

I can understand that. . . . it's much the same as not placing any credence in certain reviewers.

We all have our egos. . . nobody enjoys rejection.... especially when ya know you're not really a dangerous asshole!

It has happened to me twice. One, in particular, stung a bit.... and left me wondering why? It was back in the days when I was still reviewing... the only two theories I had were either she didn't care for my board persona... or, someone filled her head full of bullshit! I never did find out... she only told me that she didn't think we would be compatible. ** Too bad.... 'cause I definitely wanted sum!

There is one thing I still find quite commendable about you girls.... we (The Male Dawgs) have an obvious advantage in picking our playmates... we usually have a pretty good idea as to what to expect, physically. I often wonder how the girls sometimes mask their repulsion when the door opens. ** Don't even try to tell me that it never happens!
How often have guys failed the Peep Hole Test?

<this is going to be interesting, if we could only get a few responses from the ladies>

I don't want to look at myself in the mirror, I can only imagine what the girl is thinking. The last time I got any looks was 15 years ago in size 32-36 Sedgefield jeans, boots and a torn flannel rodeo shirt!

You guys are killing me here!! If we were to respond we would be crucified,lol. No woman in her right mind would go there. And besides it's not our job to critique you, it's your job to critique us right?

...There is one thing I still find quite commendable about you girls....I often wonder how the girls sometimes mask their repulsion when the door opens. ** Don't even try to tell me that it never happens! ...How often have guys failed the Peep Hole Test? Originally Posted by MrGiz

Often, honestly. But, since I've been involved in the hobby...my perspective on men, and the qualities that I find attractive in them, has changed drastically.

I've had a lot of great sexual experiences with hobby guys...guys that I might have otherwise overlooked or disqualified in real-life dating. Even when someone doesn't fit the cookie-cutter physical ideal, there's a lot of other factors that can make the experience a great one--and if I weren't involved in the hobby, I might have missed out...

I think experiencing that has allowed me to be more open minded to what types of guys I'm now receptive to in real life.