Eric Holder: Gun Owners Should 'Cower' in Shame Like Smokers

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  • CJ7
  • 01-11-2013, 05:48 PM
We won't. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

and you damn sure wont see a viable presidential candidate from either party as long as you keep it up .. EVER.

so by all means, full bullshit ahead! its pretty good entertainment watching stupid shits fuck themselves into total oblivion

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another opinion piece ... nothing illegal or grounds for impeachment

but ...

where are the republicans if Obie is so impeachable ?

oh yeah, wishing stupid shit tea party fuck ups and insane libertarians would stfu Originally Posted by CJ7
Should Obama be impeached and can he be impeached are too completely different matters. Yes, he absolutely should be impeached for governing outside of the Constitution.

Since the Demonrats control the Senate, Obama won't be removed from office even if the House voted to impeach him. Obama could murder someone and the Demonrats would say it didn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
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  • CJ7
  • 01-11-2013, 05:57 PM
Should Obama be impeached and can he be impeached are too completely different matters. Yes, he absolutely should be impeached for governing outside of the Constitution.

Since the Demonrats control the Senate, Obama won't be impeached no matter what he does. Obama could murder someone and the Demonrats would say it didn't rise to the level of an impeachable offence. Originally Posted by joe bloe

should ... again, thats your opinion and the opinion of the article

move to canada and be closer to your sources
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should ... again, thats your opinion and the opinion of the article

move to canada and be closer to your sources Originally Posted by CJ7
Yes it's my opinion. It's also my opinion that ice cream tastes good. I'm equally confident that both opinions are accurate.
Is there anyone here that is "seriously" going to defend Holder on anything he's done in the last 4 years? Please....give it your best shot. Originally Posted by Chica Chaser
I will. He hasn't been the best AG ever but his record is pretty good. Certainly better than the ass-kissing mullet-heads from the last administration. I guess I'd run his record up against Alberto Gonzales just about any day of the week.

By the way, forgive me for asking...but, how are his statements wrong? All of us smokers are on the run...as well we should be....the government's anti-smoking policy has been pretty successful. Maybe if we change the attitude towards guns, we can prevent 20 more dead six year olds from being in the news next year. Would that be a bad thing? Originally Posted by timpage
That's your "defense?" Please tell me you are a bar certified lawyer so I can send my next ex-wife to you.
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Eric Holder could have shut every bad "Bush" program down with just one order. It did not happen and thus he is responsible.
I have less than zero respect for anything that criminal has to say about anything.
He should be in prison cowering in shame as he is butt raped by his "wife".
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[QUOTE=joe bloe;1052187872 Yes, he absolutely should be impeached for governing outside of the Constitution.
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What exactly has Obama done outside of the Constitution? No speculation please.
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obamacare?
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  • 01-11-2013, 10:26 PM
Eric Holder could have shut every bad "Bush" program down with just one order. It did not happen and thus he is responsible.
I have less than zero respect for anything that criminal has to say about anything.
He should be in prison cowering in shame as he is butt raped by his "wife". Originally Posted by The2Dogs
You exagerate.

But he could certainly have shut down a lot of the bad ones by now.
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"Fast and Furious" was solely and totally an Obama Administration creation. A much different program by the Bush Administration had been completed and closed before Obama took office.

This was Obama's and Holder's alone.
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What exactly has Obama done outside of the Constitution? No speculation please. Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
Read post #26 and all the links. There will be a quiz.
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Obamacare? You're a fucking idiot Muskogee!
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Illegal appointments for one.
My advantage is that I know nothing about Holder, so can come fresh to the issue. No doubt he has made some good decisions and some bad decisions. The article included some of the remarks, but a bit out of context. Have any of you watched the video, which is itself edited ?

1. It was a talk in 1995, when attorney for columbia

2. The fuller extract is:

...our young people...they are saturated in the media and in entertainment with violence and i think too many of our young people and in particular our young men are fascinated by violence and in particular are fascinated by guns and what we need to do is to change the way in which people think about guns especially young people and make it something which is not cool, not acceptable, not hip to carry a gun any more.

I think he was addressing both a more general problem (the media and violence) and a specific group (young men fascinated by guns). I don;t think he was addressing older men with legal weapons used for legal purposes with a mature attitude towards arms.

You can see both sides in a Tarantino film - the violence is sexy, the entertainment industry loves guns and violence.

I can acknowledge myself that violence has some fascination for me, whether it is a 1960's Dracula film, spaghetti westerns and their ilk (Bring Me The head of Garcia watsit) or something more recent. There must be something in us which finds catharsis in watching violence. But have we gone too far?
Eric Holder = Fast and Furious
Government sponsored gun violence kills US agent
enough said.

Sounds like we need to control the government, eh? Originally Posted by The2Dogs
Don't foreget Holder is also a Tax Evading piece of shit that doesn't know what the hell he's even talking about. He's no inspiration by any means.