Is P411 worth it?

Once you have several ok's on P411 it saves a metric assload of time and effort to have to provide a bunch of references and wait for it to all check out.

The catch22 appears to be that the OP does not have any references and does not want to give personal info to P411. Originally Posted by StinkyFingers

For OP, yeah. Extra ironic given DickEmDown admonishing giving any info, ever.

For me roughly the same though slightly different variation on it, I likely don't register as anything near on the grid...although I did not realize P411 was based out of Canada. That could help.

DickEmDown, I think in part, you don't see it because it has been so long since it was an issue for you? Plus....

@enderwiggin Here is why it is a good thing you posted: "Half of these girls who clearly state "screening is required, I must get blah blah blah" are full of shit and will schedule anyway."

I've been reading through a lot of thread, had not seen this even hinted at anywhere.

One word....FuckTards Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

Yeah ... Friggin Newb and these Fucktards never heard of Fight Club. What's that first rule again?

For OP, yeah. Extra ironic given DickEmDown admonishing giving any info, ever.

For me roughly the same though slightly different variation on it, I likely don't register as anything near on the grid...although I did not realize P411 was based out of Canada. That could help.

DickEmDown, I think in part, you don't see it because it has been so long since it was an issue for you? Plus.... Originally Posted by JRCash

JR...

I saw one provider...then another provider, then got on P411. Any other trick could do the SAME damn thing

I'm with Ender too...."If you can't see a provider because of screening, you're hobbying wrong...& your paranoia is annoying."

JR...

I saw one provider...then another provider, then got on P411. Any other trick could do the SAME damn thing Originally Posted by DickEmDown

But you don't see how being able to get a session without 411 OR references takes a lot out of the "411 for reference", right?

That is the archetypal of Catch 22...or you don't understand what a Catch 22 is? Did you ever read the book?

I'm with Ender too...."If you can't see a provider because of screening, you're hobbying wrong...& your paranoia is annoying."

...and you expressing that smugly & condescending in a rather unhelpful way.

There's this thing providers call "newbie friendly" and what's really cool is a lot of them are on p411.....

I think that may help with your catch22 problem.....

The bottom-line is that your supposed "catch-22" doesn't exist. This question/conundrum has been discussed ad nauseum over the past ten years.

Yes, P411 is an excellent tool.

No, it's not essential to hobbying.

No, it's not difficult to get established there.

No, you don't need to give them employment information.

Use the search tool, for the love of God.

LMMFAO....


Dude, just go see a couple of "newbie friendly" providers who are ALREADY ON P411, search Provider ads for "newbie", you'll get plenty of hits, and get set up on P411 WITHOUT giving any of your "private info" to a "Canadian Company" that I'm sure is on every local Vice Squad's Top Ten list of people to bust....


Or just "man up", pay the fee to join, and not worry about your "private info" falling into the wrong hands....


Or, keep doing what you're doing and don't do either of the two I just listed above....I really don't give a fuck, it's YOUR Hobby



There....was that "HELPFUL" enough

The bottom-line is that your supposed "catch-22" doesn't exist. This question/conundrum has been discussed ad nauseum over the past ten years....
Use the search tool, for the love of God. Originally Posted by enderwiggin

Search is problematic, unless I missed the "ignore flood of poorly communicated Prick posts" option.

Perhaps somewhere, way back, there were well lots of well communicated posts on this that were not swamped by Prickishness, arrogance, assumptions, and general grumpy whining about 'noobs'.

But that time seems past. :[

You ever given somebody all the options they could possibly need to help themselves but they just keep shooting you down as if they really didn't want the help in the first place

Well, if you're askin for help, you've got a funny way of doing it. We've already told you virtually everything you need to know about a completely different website's policies and procedures. I wonder if you've even thought to contact P411's staff for answers to your obvious difficulties. Their staff is excellent, prompt and very helpful. Since clearly everyone here only exists to make your life difficult, wouldn't going to the source be the next logical step?

I also find it highly unlikely that you even attempted to type "P411" into the search function. The hundreds of threads that come up will require about ten minutes of your time to sift through to find what you want.

Like I said...why do you people even try? If they're not smart enough to find the answer themselves, they're not smart enough to take any advice they find here...

Let 'em twist...

Some should stick to downloading porn.

I guess that's the question or the catch 22. I need to be verified by 2 or 3 girls to see most girls or I need 2 or 3 for p411 or I need to give p411 information that could easily cause me to lose my job and it would be my luck that the day I give it to them some le taps in. Originally Posted by jazzguy

OP, have you yet selected the 2 or 3 Providers that you would like to see on a regular basis?

If not, do your research and choose exactly who it is you would like to see. Chances are they are NOT Newb friendly, but maybe so.

Send each an e-mail briefly explaining that you would like to see them on a regular basis but your experience to date is in the spa scene. Give them your Eccie handle so they can see that you have written 10 reviews. Might buy you a little something.

Inquire if they have a dinner-only rate. If they do, tell them to pick a restaurant and make a reservation under a name of their choosing for a set date/time. Ask what information they would like you to provide at the dinner meeting for their verification purposes. Tell them to text you the restaurant at which you're to meet immediately prior to the set meeting time. And, upon your arrival, to then text you the name the reservation is under. Seat yourself at the table and if the lady chooses to join you, it's her choice.

I have been with P411 since 2007/08 and have never had ANY problems ever... I prefer staying lower volume and it has made a tremendous difference in my income on top of my other job fields so I am pretty exclusive with it.

Everyone else stated most of the pros and cons already...

As far as the Spa or massage part...I do them and incorporated that part in my P411 profile and ad board area so that gents in my home base can choose the "date" or the "studio" and we can pre discuss the donations and the menu options and close that up before opening the door to meet...

I like to do those type of dates/sessions without having to be paranoid and try using public ads like BP. I dont use BP.