Gifts

Getting a bit personal with the characterizations here. Let's settle it back to a civil level, folks. Originally Posted by John Bull

I totally agree. This is a place where we should have civil discussions .

Heh...anything else heinz?

Def gifts like lingerie, and usually my ulterior motive is to see her dress up in it.
A win win scenario as I see it.

Until you leave and have to still place her full donation on the table...and then not get to see another chick in that lingerie...

Just sayin'...

Until you leave and have to still place her full donation on the table...and then not get to see another chick in that lingerie...

Just sayin'... Originally Posted by Wakeuр

Well that's why it's a gift, and not a substitute for donation.

And y'all wonder why hookers like gifts so much...

Some of us hold women in higher respect and can afford to let them know it. Originally Posted by heinz5710

So it is okay for the lower middle class to be disrespectful? I mean, just to keep your world view in order, we should treat all women like cum depositories, correct? Because the rich guys will massage their ego distributing trinkets?

Totally agree with this. Some fucktards treat their hooktards like cum dumpsters. I do like the gas station analogy. And because these type of fucktards seem to be incapable so sustaining a normal human relationships does not mean that all of us can't.
Whereas some of us like to treat the person we are fucking like a human being. Which is not to say I give every provider I see a gift. But I actually have had a few providers who have treated me very well and have gone well beyond what the average provider does for the average client. I have given gifts to those girls when I know what they would like. And it always pays off. Originally Posted by TheDoc

By most accounts in this thread, what you gave was an investment, not a gift, because 'it always pays off.' Which makes the rest of your post bullshit.

Nothing personal, most of this thread is bullshit, fucktards and hooktards primarily being manipulative gift-givers, something always expected.

So it is okay for the lower middle class to be disrespectful? I mean, just to keep your world view in order, we should treat all women like cum depositories, correct? Because the rich guys will massage their ego distributing trinkets? Originally Posted by JohnnyCap

You misinterpret my words. You aren't being disrespectful if you don't leave a gift or a tip. Surely you can't believe that the lower middle class or people on a budget can't afford a single rose or a little extra outside the envelope now and then. You budget the ladies cost don't you. If you have a regular that you see be kind to her. If you always just pay the going rate, you become just someone who helps pay the rent. Make the little things part of your GFE experience. Now I understand your limits and no matter how you feel about those that have more, remember that they do have more. Kindness does not depend on wealth. Is a man just someone who deposits cum in the depository or is there more. My world view is that all people should be treated with respect especially providers. One of the biggest complaints I hear from the gentlemen is that they are treated like wallets. Some think that when the money dries up so do the women. I beg to differ. There is more to any woman than what is between her legs. There can be more to any man than being a cum depositor for a price. If you tip a server in a restaurant why can't you tip or gift a woman who made you feel like you had a real girl friend for an hour or two. Don't live life expecting appreciation from others. No matter what you do, some people will just take. Feel good in the giving and not just the receiving. If you are looking for someone who thinks women are just cum depositories, I'm not your man. Read the posts in this section to see who thinks of women as whores and who doesn't. Don't act like you are only a wallet with semen and prostate fluid and you won't be treated that way as often. Life will improve!

So just paying their rate every time, is treating them like a cum depository, whereas giving them a gift over and above their donation is respecting them, huh?

You're so caught up in your delusion that you have no idea how you sound...

So just paying their rate every time, is treating them like a cum depository, whereas giving them a gift over and above their donation is respecting them, huh?

You're so caught up in your delusion that you have no idea how you sound... Originally Posted by Wakeuр

We are in agreement for once. You have no idea how you sound either. Giving the gift in itself isn't the respectful part. Respect can't be bought. However, referring to them as whores is disrespectful. The notion that you can't give something to someone you like shows that you haven't thought it out either. BTW, I know how not turning the whole P4P thing in to a business transaction sounds. I understand your logic. To me, the GFE is a fantasy I choose to appreciate. I don't reduce that for myself by thinking that "I paid for it, I should get it." If I did that then the whole GFE is gone for me. It would be like a product I am buying. Women are not bowling balls that have three holes for your fingers and other items and feel nothing . Providers can be more than entertainment for an hour or two.

However, referring to them as whores is disrespectful. Originally Posted by heinz5710

Why?

The notion that you can't give something to someone you like shows that you haven't thought it out either. Originally Posted by heinz5710

You've completely missed my point. You're paying this chick $300 or more an hour...and you're giving gifts?? Do you give your lawyer gifts after you get your bill? Do you give your hospital gifts after that bill shows up? My point has always been that they're overpaid already...and guys are giving gifts on pulp of that...the only reason is because they want special treatment...just like bribing your lawyer to lose evidence in a case, or buying your doctor a club membership so he'll start writing you those prescriptions you don't need...

It doesn't work...they don't give a fuck about you...

you guys are still at it....hehee ...ijs

I can do this all day...pretty soon he'll realize it.

too much credit...ill give him 6 mos...hahahah.. diggin in his heels.....