When Did References Become About This?

KatieKatie's Avatar
I understand why it had to be a "selfie" .... please keep me on ignore.

But if you truly are on a "weight-loss program" and it's working, that is a positive contribution to you, and the options available to hobbyists, who "trend" toward providers who keep themselves in decent physical condition and maintain a natural attractiveness.

Hopefully you will continue on that positive path, if for no other reason, than to be healthier.

Kate, I assume this means that it would be a waste of time for me to contact you for an appointment. Originally Posted by LexusLover
It was a joke. That isn't Brooke.

Please!!!
Am I only one who is skeptical about this

Also, about the odor part, and I'll just speak for myself, is good to know. I don't hobby for the money, in fact, I don't even consider this a job.I'm in no desperate need for money
I guess it depends on her definition of desperate.
Brooke Wilde's Avatar
Finally...we get some unaltered pics... Originally Posted by Wakeuр

What? An unaltered picture? What about my flawless stretch-mark-free belly? Surly you didn't think my tummy really looks that flawless ... like a big silky ball. I'll have you know I spent hours photo shopping all the road maps off my stomach in that picture. I'm offend that my hours of "art" went unnoticed.

Well here is another one for you to appreciate ....

LexusLover's Avatar
It was a joke. That isn't Brooke. Originally Posted by KatieKatie
What was a joke?

You mean the post about baths of bleach after a session with me?

Or the post about her being ... errrr .... in need of losing weight?

What are the politically correct terms? Thick, curvy, voluptuous, juicy, bbw?
KatieKatie's Avatar
^I am the last person who cares about anything being politically correct. Sorry Brooke hurt your feelings.

Ohhhh girrrl!!! You gettin tatted up!!!! Nice tattie!!!
Brooke Wilde's Avatar
LL's a softie ain't he Kaite ... I had to put him on ignore years ago. He cries about this and screams injustice about that. It's funny because around the same time I put him on ignore, my doctor said I didn't need my meds anymore ... who would'a thought
KatieKatie's Avatar
^Don't tell people you were on meds, Brooke!
^Don't tell people you were on meds, Brooke! Originally Posted by KatieKatie

I believe it....ijs
LexusLover's Avatar
Sorry Brooke hurt your feelings. Originally Posted by KatieKatie
She can't. How could she? Ask her how many times I called her for a session.
Brooke Wilde's Avatar
I believe it....ijs Originally Posted by bustyamy

You and your lying multiple personalities need to take a few doses of something - strong. Instead of seeking out a Mexican plastic surgeon, you should of sought the help of a psychiatrist.

The level of deception and premeditation you showed in this thread was truly cunning. I wouldn't trust you with shit. If you worked as hard at working out as you did at lying, your ass wouldn't of had to cross the border to get your fat sucked out.

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=661646&highlight=
LOL from references to plastic surgery overseas...what a topic!
LexusLover's Avatar
If you worked as hard at working out as you did at lying, your ass wouldn't of had to cross the border to get your fat sucked out. Originally Posted by Brooke Wilde


Foreign countries DO HAVE STANDARDS AFTER ALL.
MOCHAakaMOCHA's Avatar
I also appreciate as much physical info as possible. He's asking for a PSE date and he has a huge donkey dick he failed to mention it or a physical handicap/condition he didn't mention (met a client w/ fairly bad Parkinson's once .... surprise) etc etc.

Alright alright, I'll chime in!!! I 95% agree with Brooke here.

When I give refs: IF I have a little extra time and I vividly remember the encounter (cause the dude was a total freak...not that I'm complaining), I will give a heads up. Like ***** really insisted on a golden shower or he wanted to be spanked so hard he had welts on his ass....not to mention giving a heads up when she should pack gloves cause he really likes to be fisted...

When I ask a lady questions, it can be because the dude has no footprint on the boards and he gave several lady's names that I am not overly familiar with. In that case, I contact as many of them as he gives and look for consistency in responses.

And IF it he pans out reference-wise, I give him the green light to schedule. After which he bombards me with questions like, "do you do TUMA or Greek?" Damn right, I am going to RE-CONTACT his refs and ask how clean/groomed he is & how big he is. I like to be mentally and physically prepared. Perhaps that is the guy who I will need to have the shower running upon his arrival.

I do my very best to prepare ladies for any guy that prefers play that is outside of the norm or who has particular attributes that she might have to overcome. I appreciate as much physical information as possible.

Stuff about money or tipping is ridiculous. Originally Posted by YummyMarie
gimme_that's Avatar
Alright alright, I'll chime in!!! I 95% agree with Brooke here.

When I give refs: IF I have a little extra time and I vividly remember the encounter (cause the dude was a total freak...not that I'm complaining), I will give a heads up.............. Originally Posted by YummyMarie
I appreciate the way you screen for compatibility. But based on my tryst in the majority only white woman have done or asked my references in regards to penis size and/or details about what I like in session. I have never had this issue arise from black women........only one or two out of sixty whoa ask my references about me.

I think to an extinct its sorta tacky and less in the spirit of competetion to ask or suggest another provider "dick tips" in lue of better compatibility and feel some kind of negative way if she thinks its isn't of class or discretion to answer. I think if a clients penis size or type of sexual type of session is an issue potentially for a lady she should have a disclaimer on her website, p411 profile, or speak live about her potential "no gos" when he is screening. But on the other hand....if a lady asked me about penis size or is going into too much detail about sessions she doesn't like Id feel as though she might be hesitant and too much of risk to see.....too me it shows doubt in her ability.

For instance if I'm seeking a PSE/GFE overnight session, and you ask me some weird question like...."your not gonna manhandle me are ya"....."your not gonna want to have sex the entire night are you"....I will assume to some degree even if its not the case.....that your confidence in your physical abilities is suspect.....and I wouldn't want to take the chance in seeing a lady who has doubt about what she might do. I like seeing ladies that show confidence and are professional. I'm expecting nothing but top of the line service for the price I'm paying. Doubt and certain questions ruin that niche look.

I also appreciate as much physical info as possible. He's asking for a PSE date and he has a huge donkey dick he failed to mention it or a physical handicap/condition he didn't mention (met a client w/ fairly bad Parkinson's once .... surprise) etc etc. Originally Posted by MOCHAakaMOCHA

And IF it he pans out reference-wise, I give him the green light to schedule. After which he bombards me with questions like, "do you do TUMA or Greek?" Damn right, I am going to RE-CONTACT his refs and ask how clean/groomed he is & how big he is. Originally Posted by YummyMarie


I personally believe at that point after that lady has taken time out to respond to your reference......contacting her again with your later hangups and doubt of compatibility is overkill. You could have asked her that from the jump. "Girl is he wider or longer than a toilet paper roll empty" ......."does he sometimes take a long while to cum and achieve orgasm".....type questions....Id find that somewhat annoying if I was a provider.

Another thing that maybe pertinent.....don't lose sight of the fact that some of the time us client use refs of ladies we are really cool with. I know most time it isn't spoke on or universally accepted if a provider goes back to tell a client what a potential provider was asking about him. I like be screened....but sometimes I reverse screen to see if in fact she screened me. If my ref hits me back and gives me the head up that you asked her off the wall questions about performance, penis size, and things like that...it resonate with me and puts doubt in my mind about your abilities to perform.



I like to be mentally and physically prepared..........I do my very best to prepare ladies for any guy that prefers play that is outside of the norm or who has particular attributes that she might have to overcome. I appreciate as much physical information as possible. Originally Posted by YummyMarie
Ok what exactly is defined as "norm" type play for a client. What is considered outside the norm besides bdsm, scat or pee play, fantasy role play, etc.? Is norm that he books an hour, cums early, doesn't need MSOG most times, and tips well. What defines abnormal service acumen?

ON THE REVERSE.......if another client who saw and reviewed you was contacted.......or if he included in his review in vivid detal how your labia looked, how big or pertruding your vaginal lips were,...., how wide you felt or tight you were, if you had a non existent visually or pronounced clittoris, or an inney pussy in his physical description of you either visible to all members in a review or via pm to another hobbyist........would you consider that too much info for a potential client to be asking about you? Would you think differently about the past client you had that revealed that sensitive info about you. That's how I felt when I was actually told that a potential provider was asking about my penis size and/or performance preferences. I think it is better served asking the client.....rather than to double back and call a ref again to confirm your client performance preferences and potential hangups.

Now I will admit......I hate hanging, meat curtains, a vagina with no visual or pronounced clit, or any appearance of an inney pussy, or ladies that are known to be too tight when it comes vaginal sex in regards to booking overnights. I've asked a client before what to expect in regards to this. Is that the same thing in your case if guys included this in their review so we could see if we really mesh......or should I just ask you.....or neither.

Yes I know its a double standard but I'm paying.......I want to know.

I think preferences should be in the open, so better decisions are made.
john353's Avatar
This is the reason why I refuse to see providers that ask me for references.

I will send the lady a P411 request...and she can either agree to see me or not. If she wants to contact the ladies that have given me OK's...have at it. The whole back and forth with references makes my head hurt.