FYI

To the rare few I have met socially and never BCD's, do not contact me to be a reference for you. Just because I met you in a social setting doesn't mean I know what you are like privately.
Some think its a mistake to meet a guy socially, after past experiences I tend to agree. Lesson learned.

I hope you don't regret meeting me!

But I agree with you that there are a lot of scamming guys out there. This was how the great P411 bust happened ... some guy was able to pony references off girls just by meeting them for coffee! No escort should give a reference based on just meeting a guy in a public place.

I hope whatever the problem was - it wasn't something disastrous.

Take care sweetie!

To the rare few I have met socially and never BCD's, do not contact me to be a reference for you. Just because I met you in a social setting doesn't mean I know what you are like privately.
Some think its a mistake to meet a guy socially, after past experiences I tend to agree. Lesson learned. Originally Posted by Nicolet

That's a damn shame. Can't figure why people stink, but you're right. I did mention your name recently, but considering it took me three days to recover, I felt it was OK.

Nic, always gives good advice. Hobby and social should be separate for both parties.

What if a hobbyist pays a provider for her time.......and only have dinner or coffee.

Then pays another in a similar non sexual situation.

Would he then have two references........or does only penetration, kissing, and oral constitute a legit client. Would you turn down the money? He was safe and he paid right?

What if the client had a p411 page that was empty.....same scenario with him paying. Would you give him an ok, not provide a reference, or neither. If he paid but no body interaction or kissing took place......just talking? Why and why not........

I could see a newbie guy doing this by investing a little $$$ to see a newbie friendly lady......who might not be of his perferred physical attributes for dinner. You could even make the excuse....."Awww fiddlesticks, I was gonna take you up to my room, but I just got a text from the wife.......gotta go". Then use her as a reference to see the lady he really wanted........

@ gimme, this does not pertain to you since I have not met you in any capacity.

@gimme ... In order to guarantee that a client is legit - he needs to break the law.

I hear ya Nic...

I have had guys use me as a reference and it has been 4 or more years since I saw them.......................It makes me wonder,has he been dead for the last 4 years??? lol

well, if she made out with him and shoved his hand down her pants for free...does that count?

My post was a blanket statement to the rare hobbyists I met socially, one in particular in this instance, who tried to give my name as a reference to another provider. Although I met the hobbyist, it was not a legitimate session, therefore I can not vouch for his behavior BCD.
I wanted to make my opinion clear on my stance on giving references, nothing more. The only persons to whom I owe a detailed explaination is the hobbyist and the provider. Anyone else is just.... insert your own euphemism here.
It would count Heidi, if you were correct. In this case, you are not.

That's why I said IF. Perhaps not in this case....

Pathetic..You want to pick on dreams, haha.

Nic, I understand what you are saying.

@ gimme, this does not pertain to you since I have not met you in any capacity. Originally Posted by Nicolet

I knew that....that obvious.

What I was curious on....was not only you....but if ladies in general were called upon by new clients for dinner dates.....but no service......and he paid would he be a legit reference. And if so....or if not. Why take the money if you deemed not worthy of seeing.

That wasn't no attack...just curious.

I hear ya Nic...

I have had guys use me as a reference and it has been 4 or more years since I saw them.......................It makes me wonder,has he been dead for the last 4 years??? lol Originally Posted by DallasRain

One the opposite side of the spectrum.....I have had ladies who I haven't seen for months tell me they won't feel comfortableproviding a reference......but would consider seeing me again first themselves. I wonder what part of the game is that lol.