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it was late 60's/early 70's. he's no longer with us.

Arverni, you rock my socks!

Um, I still pay taxes though.

I am entitled to be compensated properly for my LABOR and to call out time-wasting douchebags who haggle over rates. I do not however think that I am entitled to other people's labor at a discount simply because I am who I am, or to waste people's time whose labor I refuse to pay the going rate for by contacting them to complain about their rates. There is actually a big difference and I don't really care if you're too obtuse to recognize it. Originally Posted by spicyzoey

First, I am not singling Zoey out... just using her post because she has verbalized what a lot of ladies think!

I am entitled to be compensated properly for my time. BUT, I do not think it is a great idea to call out time wasters who haggle over price.

I actually believe that anyone is entitled to ask me if I give a discount. Asking is fine... it is part of the free market system. If you can get a discount, good for you!

But, I don't call them out for it. It seems to present me to potential customers (not the one I am calling out but to others who might read what I am saying) in a less favorable light. And, if one is not worried about how one presents themselves, then you do not understand marketing!

I want all potential customers to see me as approachable. I refer many to my website and ask them to read the FAQs and Etiquette under the Consideration tab. That does a lot of screening for me... screening those potential clients who may find that I am not the girl for them!

From my FAQs section:

Q . Are your rates negotiable or do you run specials?

A. I appreciate your interest but my rates are absolutely non-negotiable. I pride myself on being a quality companion and my rates reflect that.

If they still ask, I simply say, in private, "I am sorry, but I do not have a discounted rate." If they get insulting with something like "you are too high for your age!" Then I politely say, "I am sorry you feel that way. Others have not felt the same way. Thank you for writing." Then I end it. Not more replies, no posting about them being a timewaster, no wasting of my time worrying about them... I just move on.

Smooch!

Lea

I refer many to my website and ask them to read the FAQs and Etiquette under the Consideration tab. Originally Posted by Lea Madisson

What's your secret?

I find many flat out won't read one word on a website.
When i send them my rates link, etiquette link to read, i never hear back. I consider those to be nothing more than hagglers.
If they were serious they would of read all the fun reading on my website before emailing/calling and asking.

I bet if i was having a garage sale w/super super low rates they would read all the details
and break their ankles trying to get here seeing me.


Thanks to all the kind gentlemen who take time out to read and inform themselves of all the details beforehand!

What's your secret?

I find many flat out won't read one word on a website.
When i send them my rates link, etiquette link to read, i never hear back. I consider those to be nothing more than hagglers.
If they were serious they would of read all the fun reading on my website before emailing/calling and asking.

I bet if i was having a garage sale w/super super low rates they would read all the details
and break their ankles trying to get here seeing me Originally Posted by Seeking ~P

Sad thing is, half of them will get off on watching rates go super low alone

Ladies can and may charge what they wish for their time, and of course some men will always feel the need to gripe about a ladies rate/ and or her rate versus her age. I for 1 think that if a lady gives awesome service, no matter what her age is, there will always be men who seek her out and pay her fee with no questions asked.

I will continue to provide awesome service, no matter what my age becomes, and I will always continue to provide good intel and insight to those few ladies who ask for my advice.

I agree with Lea and a few of the other ladies who have responded here. In the end, it is a matter of choice. (A man may be cheap in your eyesight, but to another lady he may be a wonderful customer and provide her with the much needed funds she so desperately needs in this uncertain economy.) We cannot and shouldn't judge so harshly what a man spends or what ladies choose to accept his donation.

If he is not your cup of tea, then just graciously say no thank you sir and let it go. He will then move on to someone else, or decide to pay your rate in full no questions asked.

Just my .02 cents again

M.M.

Sad thing is, half of them will get off on watching rates go super low alone Originally Posted by Eva Damita

And some will even bitch and complain until its free . . .

Eh, thing is, I really don't mind if I alienate the type of client who thinks haggling is acceptable behavior. In fact, it's not, and I have every intention of dissuading that type of client from contacting me. Non-haggler clients who sympathize with hagglers are similarly not my target audience. The gentlemen I prefer to meet understand why haggling is unacceptable.

It's not really an issue of being unconcerned with how I present myself. More a matter of being committed to presenting myself in a manner that communicates clearly that it is not okay for a client member to contact me privately unless they are prepared to book an appointment at my published rates. Every one of my ads mentions that my rates are non-negotiable so there is really no excuse for it.

Well, I don't sympathize with "hagglers" - I think it's bad form and it also telegraphs your socio-economic status to the provider. If you show up clean and well dressed ... with an envelope with the correct fee and a tip - I think she's more inclined to be a bit more "enthusiastic" about that session, thinking she may have a good repeat client on her hands with some disposable income.

That said ... I do agree with Lea ... what's the point of calling it out? If a guy makes a post bitching about rates then, by all means - embarrass him.

But other than that - just deal with it if it's a private communication. Every business has to deal with idiots. Lord knows I deal with them at the bar but I don't really go around broadcasting all the problems I have there - except if there's a humorous element in them.

But a lot of guys really don't understand that girls set their rate for their own reasons. Some set them competitive with other ladies in a given area. Some of them set them high to attract only a certain kind of client - because they don't want to deal with the others. Some may set them high just because they don't want to do high-volume. Not every provider is "full-time" ... some do it just as a side business.

So a lot of guys don't understand that not every girl is out there trying to make the maximum amount of money by setting her rates at a "sweet spot" to attract maximum clientele and doing as much volume business as possible.

Can't tell you how many times guys have said to me ... "Her rates are too high ... she has PPS and she won't last long."

And yet - those girls are still in business. Someone is seeing them - and paying them.

SEE..WE AINT ALL THAT BAD!! I HAVE HOWEVER BECOME A VEGETARIAN..FOR RIGHTEOUS PURPOSES OF COURSE!! BESIDES..ICK.. I GOTTA COW LICK COST MORE THAN WORTH IT..ANYWAY..BOTTOM LINE. DATY..PAY THE PRICE BOO.. FATSO. I AINT PAYING 100 FOR NEW VET BILL..BUT I AM SCRATCHING AND PECKING OUT HERE..AND ITS CHILLY AND GROSS.. SOOOOO C'MON BOO AND ILL GET YA ANOTHER PIGSTY..OR COW LICK...ORRR..I DUNNO..ITS A CHRISTMAS GIFT. WHICH DO YOU PREFER.? BESIDES MT LOBOTOMY OF COURSE... HAPPY NEW YEAR PEOPLE... AND FOR GODS SAKE THANK GOD FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! XXOO ANNIE P.S HEY HE AINT THAT BAD..JUST CHEAP..WE ALL KNOW THAT. BUT BELIEVE ME GIRLS HE IS A HOUND AND WILL FIND ONE THAT DOES GO FOR 100..(COUGH) USUALLY THEY ARE NOT OFF HERE.. LMAOF

As a bartender you've never complained to a coworker about an annoying customer or wannabe customer? I think it's important to remember that the comments referred to in this thread occurred on a private Provider Only forum and were LEAKED to the OP by a provider, and HE chose to make them public. That is why this conversation is public. I did not start a public thread to "call out" this guy for being a cheapskate time waster. He is the one who took it public. Hence we are discussing why these types of conversations happen in the first place. If he doesn't want providers who haven't actually met him to make comments about him (his complaint in this thread's OP), perhaps he shouldn't annoy the shit out of lots of providers who have never met him by sending us messages wasting our time trying to discuss explicit topics and also complaining that our rates are too high. It's pretty simple.

But a lot of guys really don't understand that girls set their rate for their own reasons. Some set them competitive with other ladies in a given area. Some of them set them high to attract only a certain kind of client - because they don't want to deal with the others. Some may set them high just because they don't want to do high-volume. Not every provider is "full-time" ... some do it just as a side business. Originally Posted by Arverni

Yes, smart man. This is very true.


There are so many men who think of escorts as just another warm body to stick things inside of and are convinced that they should never pay more than X dollar amount because no escort is really that much better than any other escort, after all, aren't we all just warm bodies with wet holes? These types of men are also often the ones who feel entitled to send time-wasting messages to try to get a lady invested in a conversation with him only to try to haggle rates or assert that they never pay more than X amount and make their offer. I purposely set my rates high because I do not want to meet that type of client anymore. I really only want to meet clients who value the unique experience that I offer enough to save their money and pay my rate because they recognize that I am a professional who knows my value and is offering something unique and (not to toot my own horn but) sometimes even life-changing.


No worries though, I am just going to decline to clear my PM inbox once it fills and therefore will not be able to accept any more PMs. That will eliminate 90% of the problem, as most of these cheapskates and time wasters do not bother to send emails. I wish I could turn the PM feature off entirely though or limit it to moderators only.

As a bartender you've never complained to a coworker about an annoying customer or wannabe customer? I think it's important to remember that the comments referred to in this thread occurred on a private Provider Only forum and were LEAKED to the OP by a provider ... Originally Posted by spicyzoey

I'm a bouncer - not a bartender. I couldn't pour a drink if my life depended on it!

As to the second part ... hmmm, I suppose you are right. I didn't connect with the fact that he got private info from the Powder Room.

Which is why I am a bouncer (not to fast on the uptake!)

LOL

... after all, aren't we all just warm bodies with wet holes? Originally Posted by spicyzoey

First - I just want to say ... that I don't think of the gals ONLY that way BUT ...

For some strange reason ... I find myself turned on by you typing that!

Whew. Okay.

But yeah, some guys don't realize that girls will set their rates in such a manner as to "weed out" the clients she doesn't want to see. It's very hard for them to admit that THEY are precisely in the category of client that she doesn't want to see.

I think there is a also an attitude that a woman in this business - has no standards ... she'll "do" anybody for a price. That's not true. If you believe that stereotype is true - then you must believe the "flip-side" of that coin ... that all "clients" are losers who can't score a free girl.

What's your secret?

I find many flat out won't read one word on a website.
When i send them my rates link, etiquette link to read, i never hear back. I consider those to be nothing more than hagglers.
If they were serious they would of read all the fun reading on my website before emailing/calling and asking.

I bet if i was having a garage sale w/super super low rates they would read all the details
and break their ankles trying to get here seeing me.


Thanks to all the kind gentlemen who take time out to read and inform themselves of all the details beforehand! Originally Posted by Seeking ~P

You're correct, The websites are the last place anyone goes. I did a poll last month:

My poll results with 62 responses:

What is the primary method you use to research/contact providers?

The providers website 0 0%
Reviews and Forums on review sites. 46 74.19%
p411 15 24.19%
Other 1 1.61%