Okay, I think I see where this has gone off track....besides the OP which is already off track. The old refrain about statistics lie and liars using statistics is true. You only advance half your argument to prove your case because to bring forward the other half ensures your defeat. I will admit that the United States has a higher "death by firearm" rate than almost any other country (we are not number one). However, if you isolate the areas like Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, etc or about 1% of the land mass of this country, the death rate plummets like Nazi Baby Killer's panties on a hot day. That is the sad truth. The vast majority of this country is safe, very safe. Safer than England where you can have your head cut off in public. Safer than Israel where mass transit can lead to your early death. No, the death rate is low outside the confines of those liberal bastions called cities but not just any cities. No, the death rate increases with the thoroughness with which liberalism has penetrated the laws and mindset of the city. I don't want to waste my time crunching the numbers but do you think I'm wrong if I said that remove the statistics from the ten largest, most liberal cities from the stats and the gun deaths would fall from 13,000 annually to under 2,000 annually? Tell me that I'm wrong then.
The United States is not the rest of the world. We are not homogenous like China or Japan. We have a history of individual freedom unlike Russia or France. We also have a greater diversity of race than just about any country in the world. I mean true diversity. We accept everyone as being a citizen and not some little tolerated subclass like Germany or England.
Anyone want to take me up on the offer? Find the death rates in Chicago alone and it will drop the national average.
Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn
I happen to agree with a great part of your statements. Yes, if you could eliminate those areas in the U.S. in which homicide rates are the highest the homicide rate would indeed plummet. And we're not even talking about cities. We're talking about small areas of cities.
Source:
http://news.travel.aol.com/2010/08/3...es-in-chicago/
"Despite its international reputation as a crime capital, Chicago is a generally safe city. This is because its present day trouble spots, occupying various stretches on the South and West Sides, tend to be isolated and far-removed from the tourist areas that are concentrated around the Loop and just north of downtown."
The vast area of the U.S., and even Chicago, is safe, very safe. Unlike you I don't blame politicians on either side of the fence for those unsafe areas. You seem to think that if Conservatives took control of Chicago and other high-crime cities that crime would come close to disappearing. Easy to say, hard to do. The good news is that homicide rates, and violent crime rates in general, are falling in Chicago and many other major cities.
source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
"However, recent Chicago homicide rates are nowhere near those seen in the '70s, '80s and '90s. In fact, the past decade has logged some of the lowest annual rates since 1965."
And in N.Y.C. there are far fewer homicides in recent years than in the past:
source:
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...-New-York.html
And in L.A.:
Source:
http://www.dailynews.com/general-new...eles-homicides
"Nearly all of the nation has benefited from a drop in crime, but Los Angeles County stands out. In 2002, 1,231 people died at the hands of others, but by 2010, the figure dropped below 700. Fueling the countywide drop, the city of Los Angeles’ homicide rate fell at about twice the pace of New York’s between 2000 and 2010, according to U.S. Census and FBI statistics."
Even in New Orleans, which annually usually has the highest homicide rate per capita (despite loose gun control laws) in the U.S., the homicide rate has dropped significantly.
Source:
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...Louisiana.html
Yet all these cities are under the control of Democratic mayors. They must be doing something right. Point is I simply would not jump to the conclusion that those evil Liberals are behind everything negative in this country.
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