Providers that ARE NOT reference friendly

P411 is helpful, I will agree.
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Wait.. did someone really just bash someone else over rates? Really? We're going to go all "whorearchy" up in this bitch?
Wait.. did someone really just bash someone else over rates? Really? We're going to go all "whorearchy" up in this bitch? Originally Posted by Grace Preston
Where, hon ? Because folks are seeing shade that's not there. I'm bowing out coed for a bit. There's no room for diplomacy any more - one will still get smear campaigned, Grace. Thank you and to the all the ladies who have been cordial over the years, it is appreciated!
I'm typically very cordial while still maintaining my "honest" responses to threads I choose to participate in.

What got me is that you (Eva) were making it such a point to say that other providers are criminals as are clients.

And it was as if to make it seem like you were going through such a better process than the rest of us tend to go through for our screening.

After reviewing your information that you publicly post on your website, as well as your showcase (which I'm not sure if it's visible if you are not a paying member), I decided that I should speak up if it seems like a bit of bullshit, especially after BLM replied the comment about finally a bit of honesty.

It does seem as though you are more along the lines of what an "elite" courtesan would be defined as (and in all the years of being on here and aspd, it is rare that those women are active on the boards other than posting an ad). Kudos for you for being a part of the community. No hate. Sincerely.

Part of what I was trying to say is - if you are paying a screener as well as for two incalls, even if you are only seeing one client per day, your rates would have to be higher. I totally understand that. Mine have been on special for the last several weeks, and starting next week they are going back to my normal rates. I understand that when you have a RW job that is your main source of income, that your time becomes more valuable. As well as knowing that the costs of conveniently located incalls are very high.

I just totally took your initial post to be quite - I'm not exactly sure how to say it - maybe just rubbed me the wrong way.

It's not a smear campaign, nor do I hate you.

I do think that you shouldn't be misleading about the way you screen, when you do in fact contact other providers (reputable of course), and even go as far as using jot for your screening.
I'm typically very cordial while still maintaining my "honest" responses to threads I choose to participate in.

What got me is that you (Eva) were making it such a point to say that other providers are criminals as are clients.

And it was as if to make it *seem like you were going through such a better process than the rest of us tend to go through for our screening.

After reviewing your information that you publicly post on your website, as well as your showcase (which I'm not sure if it's visible if you are not a paying member), I decided that I should speak up if it seems like a bit of bullshit, especially after BLM replied the comment about finally a bit of honesty.

It does **seem as though you are more along the lines of what an "elite" courtesan would be defined as (and in all the years of being on here and aspd, it is rare that those women are active on the boards other than posting an ad). Kudos for you for being a part of the community. No hate. Sincerely.

Part of what I was trying to say is -** if you are paying a screener as well as for two incalls, even if you are only seeing one client per day, your rates would have to be higher. I totally understand that. Mine have been on special for the last several weeks, and starting next week they are going back to my normal rates. I understand that when you have a RW job that is your main source of income, that your time becomes more valuable. As well as knowing that the costs of conveniently located incalls are very high.

I just totally took your initial post to be quite - I'm not exactly sure how to say it - maybe just rubbed me the wrong way.

It's not a smear campaign, nor do I hate you.

I do think that you shouldn't be misleading about the way you screen, when you do in fact contact other providers (reputable of course), and even go as far as using jot for your screening. Originally Posted by tntangie
First and foremost, I am responsible only for my exact words, I am not responsible for how you interpret them. I just saw a bunch of assuming and it "seems" and mentioning of my rates for some reason. YOU are labeling me as, and interpreting me as "Elite". I don't advertise VIP , or Courteasan, nor Elite. I'm a prostitute. It IS illegal. Fact. Disputing otherwise is projecting your internalized phobia that what you are doing is illegal as a prostitute. If I jay-walk, that is illegal ie a CRIME.

It is what it is. I'm not in denial on what I do, thus I find no need to mask or seek synonyms for escort/provider/prostitute and be an " Elite Courtesan " to make me feel better about what I do - as you are alluding. I know it defines a job not character, so I hold no phobia about it.

And if you'll note as you will further research me and screenshot I'm sure based off your current pattern, I certainly haven't been a board hog for the past year or so.

If I come off as an " Elite Courtesan" to *you, fine. But that's *your propaganda *you're pushing. Not mine. I can only be ME. As a matter of fact, "Down to Earth" is in many of my ad Titles, not "VIP", " Elite" blaaaaah. Stop it.

As for screening, I certainly was not misleading. Forms, and garnering just a name and email, number even gives an abundance of Intel and is used by countless newbie friendly companions, and P411 . It replaces refs for me... if they have them there's a place for it, if not, I proceed to **step two, which you do not address as it is NOT on display publicly

Again, smear campaign.

This is a middle class industry. Cut it out. Nobody is sucking billionaire cock. So that "high horse" you allege Im riding on is propaganda and all the way ridiculous on level 100. I make the same annually as a heaux charging $250 give or take. This aint a 6 figure career. This is middle class. Just because I carry myself with a certain vernacular as a black woman has only to do with my love for reading and education. Not class, rates, etc.

Please, leave my rates, site, and the dissection of such matters having NOTHING to do with using references out of this for your whorarchy propaganda against me. Don't assume I think my boo-boo doesn't stink because of XYZ and other topics *you address. I don't pay a screener nor do I own or pay for two in calls. I have ACCESS to one and own the other. Again, you're creating YOUR Eva that I don't fit... Pretty please stop? I don't have the time nor energy to heaux-splain my biz any further publicly. It's nunya.



Affectionately,
Eva Damita
Just because I carry myself with a certain vernacular as a black woman has only to do with education. Not class, rates, etc.

.... for your whorarchy propaganda against me.
Affectionately,
Eva Damita Originally Posted by Eva Damita
Two things:
Congratulations on getting an education. If it was college, which I am not going to presume, I know how hard it can be. I just finished my engineering degree.

As far as "whorarchy propaganda" - maybe I'm too old and feeble, you know, for someone of my age that might have to wear glasses, and my education was not good enough, but I really don't know what the hell you are talking about.


Back on topic:

I want to add a BIG THANK YOU to BBW Katrina. Before I even was able to send out the second reference request, she got right back to me in a PM. She's a beautiful woman too boot, and she was spot on about her client. I made sure to tell him that on the walk up to my incall.
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  • BLM69
  • 07-13-2017, 07:03 PM
You ladies are too predictable in here, maybe I know your online/eccie representatives already, my previous statement was accurate from what read on Eva's post

She touched on a bunch of great points such as (here comes a blm description) stop being lazy whores and stop bitching about screening, specially the ones who have been selling pussy since Bush was in office, I have more but that's enough for now. BBK is a bad bitch btw lol
Criminals, lol.
Why should the newbie friendly providers have to take all the risk and the non newbie ones expect a reference. They shouldn't give them out for free, they should charge other providers for taking the risk.
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Why should the newbie friendly providers have to take all the risk and the non newbie ones expect a reference. They shouldn't give them out for free, they should charge other providers for taking the risk. Originally Posted by Kickrocks
You realize that a business never absorbs extra costs, they just pass them on to the consumer, right?
You realize that a business never absorbs extra costs, they just pass them on to the consumer, right? Originally Posted by Grace Preston



Wrong! If you have ever owned a legit one than you'd know sometimes you do to keep a customer.
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I do own a legit business, TYVM. In most businesses, the price increases are so negligible that they really aren't noticeable unless you do a spreadsheet of pricing over say a 5-10 year period. Most ladies in this particular industry could raise their rates by $10 and it would go almost unnoticed.
Say a provider required $15 for a reference. Do you think the provider would charge a customer $315 if her normal rate is 300? I think she would eat that cost.

I own a business as well. And I have to absorb daily and monthly fluctuations in cost. Some time its in my favor, sometimes its not.
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  • BLM69
  • 07-14-2017, 08:22 AM
Wrong! If you have ever owned a legit one than you'd know sometimes you do to keep a customer. Originally Posted by Kickrocks
Exactly! These women preach they know how to "run a business" but really have no clue, lucky for the horny the guys that are wanting to bust to keep them going and are willing to settle for the bs and disappointments to absorb the lack of knowledge on "how to run a business"

I'm not talking about all the providers here but you women know this hobby has no regulations on anything such as customer service, being on time, being clean, speaking properly and so on, this wouldn't be a issue when dealing in a real professional environment.
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Say a provider required $15 for a reference. Do you think the provider would charge a customer $315 if her normal rate is 300? I think she would eat that cost.

I own a business as well. And I have to absorb daily and monthly fluctuations in cost. Some time its in my favor, sometimes its not. Originally Posted by Kickrocks
Of course not.. she would just quietly raise her rate by 10-20 bucks over the course of a couple months if charging for references became the norm. Meaning....everyone would pay a little more, not just the guy who has a reference that requires payment. Most smart ladies don't charge extra to one gent, they spread it out across the board. Walmart doesn't choose select customers to pay $20 extra.. they just tuck those extra 2 cents in on everyones can o' peas.

Another thing to consider. There are some ladies who already charge the gents if they require a reference. I think the practice is tacky-- but it exists.

In my "legit" business.. the costs of one of my major components went up fairly sharply last year. I was required to raise the cost of goods associated with that component by 15 cents across the board in order to absorb the increase in material goods.