This is what concerns me: long term damage from the Vaxx.

  • oeb11
  • 08-09-2021, 06:15 PM
RD - Vaccines Do Not Cause autism

That is fake propaganda by hysterical antiVaxxxers - and based on a refuted, false publication by a disgraced scientist.




The MMR vaccine and autism: Sensation, refutation, retraction ...

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by TSS Rao · 2011 · Cited by 249 — In 1998, Andrew Wakefield and 12 of his colleagues[1] published a case series in the Lancet, which suggested that the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) ...





Lancet retracts 12-year-old article linking autism to MMR ...

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by L Eggertson · 2010 · Cited by 197 — 2, the British medical journal said that it is now clear that “several elements” of a 1998 paper it published by Dr. Andrew Wakefield and his ...





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Autism rates in developing countries have risen remarkably in the past 20 years. For children born in 1992, according to the U.S. CDC, about 1 in 150 would ...





Autism and Vaccines | Vaccine Safety | CDC

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Vaccines don't cause autism. Research fraud is what spawned ...

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Feb 27, 2018 — How Andrew Wakefield's shoddy science fueled autism-vaccine fears that major studies keep debunking.





The research linking autism to vaccines is even more bogus ...

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Jan 10, 2017 — This study, led by the discredited physician-researcher Andrew Wakefield, is where the current vaccine-autism debate started. It has since been ...





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  • Tiny
  • 08-09-2021, 06:19 PM
It took me a while to warm up to Rand Paul, I still think his dad is a nut, but the more I see and hear about Rand Paul the more I like him.

My position on vaccines is very much the same as Paul's. I do believe in vaccines in general and the COVID vaccines in particular, but just like I don't get the flu shot as I see no benefit in doing so, I also have no intentions of getting the COVID vaccine/s. That said I highly support most other people getting it for their own good if they are at risk. Originally Posted by GaGambler
I like most everything about Paul except some of his strange criticisms of the vaccines and Fauci. He was my top pick in the Republican primaries in 2016.
  • oeb11
  • 08-09-2021, 06:35 PM
i think Paul has pointed out fauci's inconsistency and potential real conflict of interest with the Wuhan labs - and teh millions sent them for research.

I am no longer in favor of Fauci continuing - he has become a DPST administration shill.
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""The Vaccines blamed for onset autism ARE NOT EXPERIMENTAL LIKE THIS ONE ""

I didn't "blame vaccine for autism , all I stated was they are not experimental like this vaccine so NOBODY knows anything about long term effects
I fear that those choosing not to be vaccinated are already suffering from long term brain damage, I think the clinical term is stupidity.
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Counter point could be said that the other is true getting a experimental vaccine because of politics , What could go wrong
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Taking an experimental drug that doesn’t stop one from getting or spreading the disease it purports to protect you from is the epitome of stupid.
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I fear that those choosing not to be vaccinated are already suffering from long term brain damage, I think the clinical term is stupidity. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
You fear... sounds about right.

You think?... LOL... inconceivable.

BTW: You know Blacks have the lowest vaccination rates, right? Does that make them all stupid?
  • oeb11
  • 08-10-2021, 01:25 PM
Most of the antivaxxers are DPST white female 'Karens' who just know they speak for all underprivileged black peoples who cannot obtain an ID or drivers license.
particularly high densities in NTshitty and north of the city. , LA, Minneapolis, San Francisco, portland, and Seattle - all DPST shit holes.
  • Tiny
  • 08-10-2021, 01:36 PM
I fear that those choosing not to be vaccinated are already suffering from long term brain damage, I think the clinical term is stupidity. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
A person I work with, 35 years old and excellent health, had COVID a few months ago. He says he’s still suffering from brain fog — it takes him an hour to do things that took 15 minutes before.
Taking an experimental drug that doesn’t stop one from getting or spreading the disease it purports to protect you from is the epitome of stupid. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
If you mistake the facts you can make it sound however you like. It affords 90% protection catching the disease and another 90% protection from hospitalization if the first 10% fails. Bypassing that protection is the epitome of stupid.
  • oeb11
  • 08-10-2021, 01:43 PM
i do believe that 'stupidity" - a noun thrown at others by those who suffer from it, should be accompanied by a mirror.
Taking an experimental drug that doesn’t stop one from getting or spreading the disease it purports to protect you from is the epitome of stupid. Originally Posted by Jacuzzme
If you misstate the facts you can make it sound however you like. It affords 90% protection catching the disease and another 90% protection from hospitalization if the first 10% fails. Bypassing that protection is the epitome of stupid.
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BTW: You know Blacks have the lowest vaccination rates, right? ... Originally Posted by texassapper
Cannot stress this enough. This is the only reason the Dims aren't whole hog nation wide vaxx mandate.

Most of the antivaxxers are DPST white female 'Karens' who just know they speak for all underprivileged black peoples who cannot obtain an ID or drivers license.
particularly high densities in NTshitty and north of the city. , LA, Minneapolis, San Francisco, portland, and Seattle - all DPST shit holes. Originally Posted by oeb11
Antivaxx is such an misused umbrella term. There are approximately 20 vaccines. Did you get everyone? Some like the rabies vaccine there's no nonurgent use. Some like the Shingles vaccine applies to an age group. What about the HPV vaccine? Flu Vaxxx? It's updates?

Just because you don't want a "for emergency use only" vaxxx for something that you may have already had or don't fall into certain co-morbidity categories doesn't make you "antivaxx".

It's just THIS vaccine. If the government wants everyone to take it, stop LYING!
If you mistake the facts you can make it sound however you like. It affords 90% protection catching the disease and another 90% protection from hospitalization if the first 10% fails. Bypassing that protection is the epitome of stupid. Originally Posted by 1blackman1
Cites? I heard the J&J vax is only 66% effective. The 90% effectiveness of M&P vacs were when they first came out. I heard a CDC rep say they were not living up to their preliminary effectiveness rates.