What Bubbles said that can be attributed to Joe Biden in some way. Ignoring the hearsay and what he "thinks" and commentary from Tucks
CARLSON: At this point, Joe Biden was the sitting Vice President of the
United States.
BOBULINSKI: Yes, that's correct.
CARLSON: Okay, so I want to fast forward to 2017, early May, 2017. And, at
this point, you've agreed to become part of this deal. Hunter Biden, Jim
Biden, the Vice President's brother, James Gilliar, and they are asking you
to meet with the former Vice President in Los Angeles. Describe the
context. Describe why they wanted you to meet with him.
BOBULINSKI: Okay. Across those days in Los Angeles, in May of 2017 that
you're referencing, I met with Hunter Biden multiple times at the Chateau
Marmont, and Rob Walker. And the discussion was they wanted me to sit down
with their father, just to meet him and at a high level, discuss the Biden
family and how they approached things.
CARLSON: So they wanted you to meet with the former Vice President in LA.
How did that play out?
BOBULINSKI: Yes. That's correct. The former Vice President was flying in
and we were to meet at the Beverly Hilton. The Milken Conference was going
on, obviously, one of the top three conferences in the world for anybody
that is a global investor or developing different humanitarian causes and a
variety of things.
BOBULINSKI: And he was -- Joe was flying in to speak about the cancer
moonshot stuff he was working on, and Hunter and everyone was in town, and
they wanted to coordinate me meeting with Joe.
And so it was set up for the night of May 2nd at the Beverly Hilton. I
first met with Hunter Biden and Jim Biden, and just had a -- you know,
light discussion where they briefed me that, listen, you know, my dad is on
the way. And, you know, we won't go into too much detail on the business
front. But we'll just spend time talking at a high level about you, your
background, the Biden family,
CARLSON: So this was at night, the Vice President just flown across the
country. He is an older man. He has got work to do.
BOBULINSKI: Correct.
CARLSON: But they carved out a piece of his schedule for you to meet with
him. Why would they do that?
BOBULINSKI: Because they were sort of wining and dining me and presenting
the strength of the Biden family to get me more engaged and want to take on
this CEO role, and you know, developed Sinohawk both in the United States
and around the world, in partnership with CEFC.
CARLSON: So Joe Biden has not denied meeting with you in Los Angeles,
correct?
BOBULINSKI: Correct.
CARLSON: Tell us about the conversation that you had with him.
BOBULINSKI: So I initially was sitting, because I got there a little
earlier, I was sitting with Jim Biden and Hunter Biden, and Joe came
through the lobby with his security. And Hunter basically said, hey, give
me a second. I'll go over and give me 10 minutes to brief my dad and read
him in on things.
And so then Hunter and his father and security came through the bar, and
obviously, I stood up out of respect to shake his hand and Hunter
introduced me as, "This is Tony, dad, the individual I told you about
that's helping us with the business that we're working on and the Chinese."
CARLSON: So it was clear to you that Joe Biden's son had told him about
this business.
BOBULINSKI: Crystal clear.
BOBULINSKI: And then he walked through sort of his family. You know, obviously, some of
the tragedies they've dealt with, his political career at a high level. You
know, we didn't go into too much detail on business, because prior to Joe
showing up, Hunter and Jim had coached me, listen, we won't go into too
much detail here, so just a high level discussion and meeting.
So it's not like I was drilling down with Joe about cap tables and details.
CARLSON: So you've said that they wanted you to meet Joe Biden, as a way
to induce you to participate in this deal. You were the actual business guy
here who had management experience, deal experience. But it also sounds
like Joe Biden was vetting you to some extent.
BOBULINSKI: Yes, of course, like, I didn't request to meet with Joe. They
requested that I meet with Joe. And, you know, he is putting his -- and
Hunter says this in writing that was referenced multiple times, they were
putting their entire family legacy on the line. They knew exactly what they
were doing.
CARLSON: They being Gilliar and Hunter Biden?
BOBULINSKI: They being Hunter Biden, who was very proud of that and taking
credit for it when I sat with him for two hours on the patio of the Chateau
Marmont in LA.
CARLSON: You've seen a number of journalists and reporters covering the
story, including some who should know better, declare triumphantly that no
document you've released connects the former Vice President to this deal.
How do you react to that? What's your answer to it?
BOBULINSKI: I want to simplify this for the American people as much as I can. On May
13th, that e-mail was sent from James Gilliar to me. I didn't generate that
email, James Gilliar generated that e-mail.
And in that e-mail, James Gilliar goes through intimate detail of what each
individual's requests were from a compensation perspective, and how the
equity in the enterprise would be divvied up. Very important. May 13th.
That e-mail was generated by somebody else to me.
In that e-mail, there's a statement where they go through the equity Jim
Biden has referenced as you know, 10 percent, it doesn't say Biden, it says
Jim, and then it has 10 percent for the big guy held by H.
I a thousand percent sit here and know that the big guy is referencing Joe
Biden. That's crystal clear to me because I lived it. I met with the former
Vice President in person multiple times, and I had been meeting and talking
with Hunter Biden and Jim Biden and Rob Walker and James Gilliar.
What the media has tried to hide and I personally feel it's disgusting, is
between that May 13th e-mail and the final document that was executed
called Oneida Holdings, LLC.
In Oneida Holdings, LLC, the equity is broken up 20 percent Hunter Biden
and 20 percent Jim Biden -- well, there are LLCs that represented them.
Twenty percent James Gilliar, 20 percent Rob Walker and 20
percent me and my investment entity. What I'd ask the American people to
read and look at is how from May 13th to the final night, a document that
got executed, did Jim Biden go from a 10 percent owner to a 20 percent
owner?
CARLSON: So was it clear to you from the beginning that what Jim Biden was bringing to this deal was his
relationship with Joe Biden?
BOBULINSKI: Yes, a thousand percent. Crystal clear.
After I met with Joe Biden, the morning of May 3rd at the Milken Conference
and then was taken backstage after Joe had spoken. You know, we joked
around for about 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and then I walked him out to his
car.
CARLSON: This is Joe Biden.
BOBULINSKI: Joe Biden, yes. And then after that, I went over to the
Peninsula Hotel and I sat with Jim Biden for two hours where Jim Biden
walked through his history and his own words stating all the work and
effort he did to get Joe Biden elected
I remember looking at Jim Biden and saying, "How are you guys getting away with this?" Like,
"Aren't you concerned?" And he certainly looked at me and he laughed a
little bit and said, "Plausible deniability."
CARLSON: He said that out loud?
BOBULINSKI: Yes. He said it directly to me,
CARLSON: That's remarkable. So I just want to back up a second, just to be
clear, you met with Joe Biden twice?
BOBULINSKI: Yes, that's correct.
CARLSON: What did he say to you after he gives his speech at the Milken
Conference? And by the way, this is all checkable. Right?
BOBULINSKI: Yes.
CARLSON: I mean, that was a public event. You can Google it.
BOBULINSKI: Well, you can go to Milken. They had to issue me -- I didn't -
- I wasn't attending Milken, so they had to issue me special credentials. A
whole team walked out into the valet of the Beverly Hilton and walked me
into that speech that he gave and sat me at the head table on front of
everyone.
So this is more than checkable. I'm sure there's photos or documentation
and stuff.
CARLSON: Tell me what the conversation that you had with Joe Biden, what
did he say to you?
BOBULINSKI: You mean, the morning after we spoke?
CARLSON: That's right.
BOBULINSKI: They just -- it was -- there was 10 people running around
giving him something to drink and we were backstage in a cramped space and
he asked me to walk with him out to the car. And he just asked, you know,
how I did and what I thought of his speech. And I thought you did a great
job in the speech. And obviously, cancer is a very serious thing that we
should all be working together to solve. I just lost a sister in law within
the last two weeks, sadly to cancer, and then he just sort of asked me to
keep an eye on his son and his brother.
CARLSON: Give us a sense of your contacts with Hunter Biden. I just -- a
lot of this is complex. There's a lot that we're not -- and this is
television, so we're not putting, you know, everything that we have on the
screen because we can't.
But for those who might suspect that you don't -- didn't really have a lot
of contact with Hunter Biden, give us a sense of some of the places where
you had conversations with him, and over what time frame?
BOBULINSKI: So, obviously, as we already discussed throughout 2015 and
2016 while Joe was still the sitting Vice President of the United States,
these guys had been doing extensive work around the world, in places like
Oman, Luxembourg, Romania, that I was being made aware of, but I obviously
hadn't come off the bench and agreed to be part of this.
BOBULINSKI: Because they have relationships and they have the Biden name
that they are able to set up meetings and get people to jump through hoops
in an interest to garner favor with the sitting Vice President Joe Biden.
CARLSON: Hunter Biden and Jim Biden Did you get any
sense that either one of these guys was qualified to be conducting this
kind of business?
BOBULINSKI: The only qualification they had was the Biden name.
CARLSON: But they seemed to have parlayed that into quite a few deals in
quite a few countries.
BOBULINSKI: Absolutely nothing. The only thing that he had was the Biden
family name and the fact that his father, at one point, he was a sitting
Vice President and potentially would run as a future President.
CARLSON: It sounds like a remarkably ambitious international business
program they had running.
BOBULINSKI: Extensive.
CARLSON: He and his uncle.
BOBULINSKI: Extensive.
CARLSON: When he said -- when Hunter Biden said his Chairman, he was talking about
his dad.
BOBULINSKI: Correct. There's two chairmen in the story. There's Chairman
Yi, who is the Chairman of CEFC.
CARLSON: Yes.
BOBULINSKI: And that text from Hunter Biden, he was not talking about the
Chairman of CEFC and what Hunter is referencing there is he spoke with his
father, and his father is giving an emphatic no to the ask that I had,
which was putting proper governance in place around Oneida Holdings.
CARLSON: So Joe Biden is vetoing your plan for putting stricter governance
in the company. I mean, it's right here in the e-mail.
BOBULINSKI: Yes, Tucker, I want to be very careful in front of the
American people. That is not me writing that. That is not me claiming that.
That is Hunter Biden writing on his own phone typing in that I spoke with
my Chairman, referencing his father.
BOBULINSKI: So documents were all executed, you know, after this back and
forth and the Chinese CEFC Director Zang, who is number three at the
company worked directly for Chairman Yi and the way it was presented to me
as a very senior Chinese Communist Party member was assuring me that $10
million was being sent to our bank account that was set up at JPMorgan
Chase to basically fund operations and grow the business and that of that
$10 million, we were capitalizing the business.
So $5 million of that $10 million was being loaned to Oneida Holdings as a
non-recourse loan from CEFC, and the other $5 million was coming in CEFC as
their capitalization of the business because we owned 50/50 in the
partnership.
The Chinese and CEFC never viewed me -- I'm insignificant and irrelevant in
this discussion. To them, it was always the Biden family. It wasn't Hunter
Biden, it wasn't Jim Biden. It was the Biden family who has obviously led
and operated by Joe Biden.
And in a document that you guys have, and I think that has been provided to
the world, the Chinese reference that because of their trust in the Biden
family, that Chairman YI and Director Zang are excited about moving forward
in this, and in that document, they referenced loaning $5 million to the BD
family.
BOBULINSKI: The BD family is the Biden family. And notice, they didn't say
we're loaning that money to Oneida Holdings or we're loaning that money to
Tony Bobulinski or we are loaning that money to James Gilliar or Rob
Walker. They, once again, not a document generated by me, a document
generated by CEFC that they are loaning that money to the Biden family.
As those of us that actually have sense have noted, Bubbles does not have any proof, He only has what he thinks. Which is fine, I think the lot of you are idiots, and both of our opinions carry the exact same weight on the subject. Bubbles told alot about how Hunter and supposedly Jim, had a great grift going by stating that Joe (by multiple names Big Guy, Chairman, etc) was the power and they were just doing the collecting. Perfect con. except nothing Bubbles said actually implicated Joe in doing anything. Except meeting with Bubbles and asking him how his speech was.
