Obama and Clinton are joining Biden for an all-hands-on-deck effort to defeat Trump

You said Biden wasn't even your 10th pick, so surely anyone who runs on the No-Labels ticket (against both Trump and Biden) ought to be superior.

You said Biden wasn't even your 10th pick, so surely anyone who runs on the No-Labels ticket (against both Trump and Biden) ought to be superior. Originally Posted by lustylad

Right, but anyone who is running as an independent in the presidential election has ZERO chance of winning the majority. Because our two party system prevents it.

Oh dear! Did I do that? Hmm... I suppose I did. Sorry! Originally Posted by lustylad

Seems like an apt comparison. Jimmy Carter known as the worst President in recent history. And now Senile Biden has stolen that crown from poor Jimmy.

To think, that was Jimmy's lasting accomplishment and now Senile Biden snatched the worst President in recent history title away from him

But maybe they can campaign together and work some magic this fall. Although imagine being the poor secret service guys on diaper patrol with those two

Right, but anyone who is running as an independent in the presidential election has ZERO chance of winning the majority. Because our two party system prevents it. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Nonsense. The number of voters who identify as independent now exceeds either D's or R's. 3rd party candidates have been very competitive in the past, most recently Ross Perot in 1992. Our current political landscape - and the widespread voter dissatisfaction with it - screams out for a 3rd party option. 70% of voters say they don't want a trump-Biden rematch. You whine about your choices being limited, but then when an alternative is about to be offered, you dismiss it ahead of time. The No-Labels ticket hasn't even been announced yet, and you're arguing it can't win. Maybe its chances would improve if the fucking Democrats weren't fighting so hard to keep it off the ballot in every state.

A Trump/RFK no labels ticket wins 45-50 states, and is a distinct possibility.

Nonsense. The number of voters who identify as independent now exceeds either D's or R's. 3rd party candidates have been very competitive in the past, most recently Ross Perot in 1992. Our current political landscape - and the widespread voter dissatisfaction with it - screams out for a 3rd party option. 70% of voters say they don't want a trump-Biden rematch. You whine about your choices being limited, but then when an alternative is about to be offered, you dismiss it ahead of time. The No-Labels ticket hasn't even been announced yet, and you're arguing it can't win. Maybe its chances would improve if the fucking Democrats weren't fighting so hard to keep it off the ballot in every state. Originally Posted by lustylad

Woah boy, we are going a bit off topic. I hope nobody has their knickers in a twist, because I think this is a mature discussion so far.


Regardless of how large a third or no party candidate is, unless the overwhelming majority of voters vote for something other than whoever is the Democrat or Republican candidate, it just isn't going to work.
Even if the vast majority of people want to do this, they have no way of knowing who else is actually going to commit to voting for a third party, and thus, would want to play it safe and vote yet again for the lesser of two evils.

Not until something like ranked choice is pushed, a third party doesn't have a chance of winning potus.


Both Dems and Republicans won't ever push for this change, because doing so would directly limit how much control of the house, senate, and white house they end up with.

Woah boy, we are going a bit off topic. I hope nobody has their knickers in a twist, because I think this is a mature discussion so far. Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Ok, I moved the topic into a new thread:

https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2963752

Gentlemen back on topic please