Trump having trouble with 2 cease fire agreements

Cease fire in Gaza region didn't last.


Trump gave Russia conditions for a cease fire. Now he is having to listen to the
cease fire conditions issued by Russia.


Let's see how things progress for Trump.

A bad deal rarely leads to lasting peace

Israel just took out the Head of Hamas.
Trump gave them a choice. They declined.

The game now will be take out anybody in any type of leadership position in Hamas.

So, if you are enjoying an afternoon drink with any of these guys, you are doing it with the knowledge that when that bomb hits, it doesn’t discriminate.

As for the Russian thing, let’s see what comes out of the Trump/Putin call day.

What came out of it was a temporary cease-fire as they work out
a good end to the war. ... That's what LEADERS do.
Refreshing to have Trump as a Leader.

#### Salty

What came out of it was a temporary cease-fire as they work out
a good end to the war. ... That's what LEADERS do.
Refreshing to have Trump as a Leader.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

WHAT?
trumpf losing on all fronts
Other countries don't respect him.
It shows hoogely

Putin has no reason to agree to any terms but his own. But hey, at least we may see more chances for another "Miracle on Ice" 1980 playback... like Putin would ever take Donald Chump seriously to convince him to stop his war of greed and evil. LOL

https://apnews.com/article/trump-put...b5c1a99fa295d2

U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin discussed staging a series of hockey games between players from their respective countries during their lengthy call Tuesday, according to the Kremlin.

WHAT?
trumpf losing on all fronts
Other countries don't respect him.
It shows hoogely Originally Posted by winn dixie

... Ukraine respects Trump... So does Russia.... And Israel.
That's three in the discussion, mate. ...

WINNING! ...

#### Salty

... Ukraine respects Trump... So does Russia.... And Israel.
That's three in the discussion, mate. ...

WINNING! ...

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

😂 lol

Latest news blurb is Putin won't agree to a cease fire unless the West stops supplying Ukraine with weapons and material.


That wasn't in Trump's cease fire plan he issued to Russia.


And....Israeli ground forces resume operations in Gaza.

Donald......?

Hamas doesn't want to not be killing Jews or any non-Moslem.

Putin still wants to reoccupy all of the old Soviet Union.

Several years ago, Belarus was on the brink of becoming a western leaning nation. Putten subverted that. Now it is back in the fold.

If a true stalemate is achieved in Ukraine, it will be temporary, as both sides want the same pieces of land.

Given a longer lasting cease fire ("peace"?) in Ukraine, I look for troubles for the small Baltic states, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. They are NATO members, so the trouble will be political to include civil unrest and groups that say they want to be Russian again.

See separatist Moldova.

...That wasn't in Trump's cease fire plan he issued to Russia... Originally Posted by VitaMan

Feel free to elucidate more clearly with source material, i.e. sauce it. The deal I read was that we would put our people in harms way to mine minerals, which would deter Muh Russia, Russia, Russia from getting overly frisky.

WHAT?
trumpf losing on all fronts
Other countries don't respect him.
It shows hoogely Originally Posted by winn dixie

To me, it shows you supporting the war because it supports your avatar. While not the proper thread for it; could you explain your fascination with heaping piles of corpses in another thread Mr. Population Control, so you don't hijack and pollute this thread?

The latest seems to be Putin does not accept Trump cease fire plan, and Trump does not accept Putin
cease fire plan. Meantime Russians continue the conflict, even escalating it.


How will this turn out for Trump ?

Israel just took out the Head of Hamas.
Trump gave them a choice. They declined.

The game now will be take out anybody in any type of leadership position in Hamas.

So, if you are enjoying an afternoon drink with any of these guys, you are doing it with the knowledge that when that bomb hits, it doesn’t discriminate.

As for the Russian thing, let’s see what comes out of the Trump/Putin call day. Originally Posted by Jacky S

Since when has Hamas been scared of having their top people taken out? Seems to be the slow way of getting rid of them.

What came out of it was a temporary cease-fire as they work out
a good end to the war. ... That's what LEADERS do.
Refreshing to have Trump as a Leader.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

And what do *you* say is a "good end to the war"?

WHAT?
trumpf losing on all fronts
Other countries don't respect him.
It shows hoogely Originally Posted by winn dixie

Hoogely indeed. With the leaks from him picking on a small country, we see that those donny picked don't have respect for Europe. Like how Fearless Leader has his close buds misdirected in their feelings and not addressing having his failed promise ending such conflicts Day #1

Putin has no reason to agree to any terms but his own. But hey, at least we may see more chances for another "Miracle on Ice" 1980 playback... like Putin would ever take Donald Chump seriously to convince him to stop his war of greed and evil. LOL

https://apnews.com/article/trump-put...b5c1a99fa295d2

U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin discussed staging a series of hockey games between players from their respective countries during their lengthy call Tuesday, according to the Kremlin. Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

Pooty never likes terms that aren't in his favour. Why do you think there was not one but two Minsk parchments? He couldn't hold to his promise and didn't like how it went for him.

... Ukraine respects Trump... So does Russia.... And Israel.
That's three in the discussion, mate. ...

WINNING! ...

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

😂 lol Originally Posted by winn dixie

I was so glad I wasn't drinking anything when i read NaCl-y statement.

Latest news blurb is Putin won't agree to a cease fire unless the West stops supplying Ukraine with weapons and material.


That wasn't in Trump's cease fire plan he issued to Russia.


And....Israeli ground forces resume operations in Gaza.

Donald......? Originally Posted by VitaMan

Hamas doesn't want to not be killing Jews or any non-Moslem.

Putin still wants to reoccupy all of the old Soviet Union.

Several years ago, Belarus was on the brink of becoming a western leaning nation. Putten subverted that. Now it is back in the fold.

If a true stalemate is achieved in Ukraine, it will be temporary, as both sides want the same pieces of land.

Given a longer lasting cease fire ("peace"?) in Ukraine, I look for troubles for the small Baltic states, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. They are NATO members, so the trouble will be political to include civil unrest and groups that say they want to be Russian again.

See separatist Moldova. Originally Posted by ICU 812

Just like another conflict relegated to political whim.
Another Korea anyone?

Feel free to elucidate more clearly with source material, i.e. sauce it. The deal I read was that we would put our people in harms way to mine minerals, which would deter Muh Russia, Russia, Russia from getting overly frisky. Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Care to elucidate on what you read?

To me, it shows you supporting the war because it supports your avatar. While not the proper thread for it; could you explain your fascination with heaping piles of corpses in another thread Mr. Population Control, so you don't hijack and pollute this thread? Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

To *me*, it shows a guy expressing an opinion. No explaination is required. Just like none is given why a potus can openly encourage and enrage a crowd to riot but not accept responsibility for doing so. Not a problem with one guy having a picture while another openly rages for it...and succeeds in doing it.

The latest seems to be Putin does not accept Trump cease fire plan, and Trump does not accept Putin
cease fire plan. Meantime Russians continue the conflict, even escalating it.


How will this turn out for Trump ? Originally Posted by VitaMan

Just shows a multitude of promises made, promise broke.

How is this going for Trump ?


I suppose he will be on Truth Social around midnight, discussing ONLY his point of view.