If True....Trump is done.

Unless the Democrats are in the files heavily as well. Mutually Assured Destruction. If Epstein was a MOSSAD operation then the Israelis were using the kompromat to manipulate both sides.

I think that means the files MUST be released now. If not Trump will be crippled for the rest of his term because the accusation is coming from someone that HE brought in... and not just some slug off the street either.

Maybe this is 3D chess and Trump and Musk are using it as a way to force the truth into the open? That would expose the corruption in Congress and possibly SCOTUS...

But I think politicians in general are too stupid to play the game at that level.

I doubt this has anything to do with EV credits... Originally Posted by texassapper

I don't doubt there being some level of MAD in the files. But damn I can't wait to see the memes from this. Let's go TACO!

... Nothing there to go on about, mate.
So what IF Trump was mentioned in the Epstein files.
We already know Trump was on the island BEFORE it was
Epstein island. .. That's been mentioned 'round here a-plenty.

And you - and Mr. Musk - are aware that IF there was
something to Trump and Epstein - it would have been
REVEALED ALREADY well-before the election.

... But I surely DO agree-with you that this "public breakup"
is because Musk is just blue about the car credits being cut.
... You're CORRECT about that, Tech-Papi ...

... See? ... Salty Knows!

##### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Salty doesn't seem to know, because I never said that. I think it could be about a lot of things.

... We've discussed the Epstein files rather extensively
'round here... Threads abound about it.

... No doubt Trump is mentioned there in the Epstein files.
THAT has also been mentioned before.

... And IF there was anything of issue there - it obviously
would have been released BY BIDEN'S FBI/DOJ already.
Well-before the last election.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

exactly. the Democrats would have leaked it to prevent Trump from running again

No, one of the last administration's biggest mistakes was respecting the office and former holders of it too much. That's why Garland was so slow to move, and why Trump's lawyers were able to run out the clock so all the evidence was never seen by juries. That's how we do trails here Salty, literally draw names to make their independent judgement, and both parties have the right to dismiss jurors they feel aren't objective.


Well, that's how we did trials here until about 130 days ago... Originally Posted by 69in2it69

what lawyers? what trial? if Garland had anything from Epstein's evidence about Trump it would have been leaked to the press.


claiming Garland didn't act out of respect to the office is nonsense,

Watching you righties all breathlessly kick around your thoughts and strategy gaming shows what vivid imaginations you have. Also, who capitalizes "mutually assured destruction." lol


Wonder if Donnie Dollhands, TOTUS: Taco of the United States will actually release the Epstein files.

There are red hatted heads exploding as we speak.

If Trump was involved with illegal activity with Epstein such as the kind we cannot even discuss on this Forum, he’s through.

However, it is difficult to believe that through the 9+ years that the Democrats have been trying to destroy The President, including just making shit up, they would have pulled this cat out of the hat years ago when they had control of the entire Justice Department.

Musk is also playing with fire. He just made an accusation that could be described as the height of defamation. He could have shot his mouth off in a fit of anger, not realizing that if wrong, he could be in a world of litigation.Trump could sue him for billions.

So let me get this straight. Something we ALL already knew is suddenly gaining traction because León is having an online chingazo with Twitler?

Trump is a felon, a liar, a despot and an all around piece of shit.

Suddenly yall give a shit about "locker room talk?"

Is THIS the gag factor for MAGA?

Nah, yall can pin it on the Democrats, Biden, Leticia James and Liz Cheney. That's the ticket!

Nobody has to make shit up about Trump. He says what he says and he does what he does. Can't deny his words or actions.

At the end of the day, Trump will certainly destroy himself.

Hopefully that day comes soon.

Just wait...

Well it has the democrats now asking for the files to be released too...

Musk is also playing with fire. He just made an accusation that could be described as the height of defamation. He could have shot his mouth off in a fit of anger.Trump could sue him for billions. Originally Posted by Jacky S

You don't think Ellie May has to cash to drag out any trial long enough for the tangerine terror to die? He's been hanging around the greatest con man of all time, world renowned for working the courts and not paying his bills. And if he did sue, Musk could just claim it was in the files that donnie pledged to release but hasn't, that he was shown the files. He's got old mushroom head by the shorties

probably fake...but still funny.

... And Musk is cryin' and whining about the big, beautiful bill
that reduces the vehicle tax credits. ... He sayin' that Trump
and the bill are big disappointments.

... Maybe this will continue to show the American people that
Trump was serious on reducing government waste.

... Really no need for the press on this - they're negative anyway.

##### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Trump and the “Big Beautiful Bill” are gigantic disappointments .

He might be serious on reducing government waste but the definition of waste he’s using includes hurting people while making rich people richer and leaving the debt to the taxpayers.

Musk is not much better. What we have here is two gigantic egomaniacs arguing about how much money they can grift off of the American people.

They can both go f*ck themselves.

Democrats are frothing at the mouth, leading to the old adage, “careful what you wish for”.

There are, by all accounts, names in the Epstein files of very prominent people. However, there is a good chance that Trump is not one of them, unless you are talking about the time Trump had him removed from Mara Lago.

As it has happened countless times, the Left’s exuberant cry of “we got him this time” turns out to be a big bust, and Trump comes out even stronger.

Elon just decided to swing for the fence. He better hope there isn’t a nasty curve coming his way.

You don't think Ellie May has to cash to drag out any trial long enough for the tangerine terror to die? He's been hanging around the greatest con man of all time, world renowned for working the courts and not paying his bills. And if he did sue, Musk could just claim it was in the files that donnie pledged to release but hasn't, that he was shown the files. He's got old mushroom head by the shorties Originally Posted by 69in2it69

Eille May? don't you mean Leon Muskrat .. er .. Elon Musk? he has plenty of money if he really wants to go nuke in some way with lawsuits. one thing Trump needs to remember here is SpaceX is the only US based space company we have that can do large cargo launches. when was the last time NASA launched their own rocket?



Trump won't cut SpaceX's contracts. as far as the EV credits Musk was aware that would happen. Musk is talking shit about the Epstein files, he hasn't seen them. DOGE ain't the DOJ or FBI. the two people who do know are Bondi and Patel, not Musk.



there's nothing in Epstein's documents that were seized (and a lot of controversy and delay about searching his island property) that implicates Trump other than they did know each other and socialized. and had a hard falling out in part due to Trump outbidding Epstein for a coveted property in Palm Beach.


if there was anything to implicate Trump it would have been released by Biden's DOJ to stop Trump from running again.


the one president that should be worried is Bill Clinton, not Trump.

Democrats are frothing at the mouth, leading to the old adage, “careful what you wish for”.

There are, by all accounts, names in the Epstein files of very prominent people. However, there is a good chance that Trump is not one of them, unless you are talking about the time Trump had him removed from Mara Lago.

As it has happened countless times, the Left’s exuberant cry of “we got him this time” turns out to be a big bust, and Trump comes out even stronger.

Elon just decided to swing for the fence. He better hope there isn’t a nasty curve coming his way. Originally Posted by Jacky S

I'm beginning to think this was all planned. Shit blew up way fast... Perhaps Musk needed distance between himself and the administration so leftards would stop keying every Tesla they saw?

Just seems very superficial.

The administrator should combine this and the other thread as they basically cover the same ground.