Tariff Man and his tariff plan cause market plunges

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If I understand this correctly, everyone who ever negotiated anything is a "taco", since they didn't stick to their first request/demand. Originally Posted by Iceman
No. Applies only to Trump. It's in the name and was coined by Wall Street traders who realized his "negotiations" were a lot of bark, while folks like Bam and Waco here were pushing these moves as being intended to generate zero tariffs. Irrational rationalizing at its finest.

Note how he didn't get anywhere near the stated goal of 90 deals in 90 days and was mostly negotiating with himself.

There's smart negotiating and then there's TACO negotiating. We didn't get to the current tariff regime under Trump with smart negotiating. Not for zero tariffs or free trade. Not even for fair trade, because there's no requirement for balanced trade. That's a fiction that many just accept, because "deficits" are bad.
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No. Applies only to Trump. It's in the name and was coined by Wall Street traders who realized his "negotiations" were a lot of bark, while folks like Bam and Waco here were pushing these moves as being intended to generate zero tariffs. Irrational rationalizing at its finest.

Note how he didn't get anywhere near the stated goal of 90 deals in 90 days and was mostly negotiating with himself.

There's smart negotiating and then there's TACO negotiating. We didn't get to the current tariff regime under Trump with smart negotiating. Not for zero tariffs or free trade. Not even for fair trade, because there's no requirement for balanced trade. That's a fiction that many just accept, because "deficits" are bad. Originally Posted by HDGristle



does TACO apply to all the nations caving in to Trump? is there a requirement to allow US trade to be unfair? i find it amusing so many want Trump to fail at what would be good for US business .. makes me wonder where one's loyalty lies?


when Trump succeeds and the markets keep going up bigly and US revenue continues to spike what are you going to say? fake news? it didn't happen? a Trump lie? can't wait to see you have to concede Trump accomplished this
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i find it amusing so many want Trump to fail at what would be good for US business .. makes me wonder where one's loyalty lies Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
You actually have to wonder about that? Leftist tribalism trumps all, they’d LOVE for the country to fall into a deep depression to satiate their hate. You’re talking about a bunch of people who think it’s bad to throw out people who snuck into the country. Their loyalties lie bare for all to see, it’s why they got hammered in the election. Reasonable people want what’s best for the country regardless of who’s in office, unfortunately ‘reasonable’ is a bad descriptor for the tds crowd.
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I'm for limited, targeted tariffs. And a right of center, moderate independent.

These tariffs have the deft touch and finesse of a fumbling geriatric with arthritis trying to eat applesauce with a spoon. How many F-150's and SUV's are you expecting Europe to buy? Trump expects a lot. Hoping you don't.

And then there's this
https://apnews.com/article/us-budget...838a6213cf2c94

Which tells you what you need to know about whether tariff revenue is going to pay down the deficit that matters

(it won't)

And he's still lying to you
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/12/econo...-goldman-sachs
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It was going to happen one way or another. Because it’s rigged. You should educate yourself on futures and derivatives. It’s all a computer casino which average folks don’t control or understand. Same as the fake paper US dollar. They print it out of thin air and send it wherever they want to send it. Did you ever ponder for one second how Congress people become extremely wealthy? How did we get 36 trillion in debt? Where did the money go? Are we better off? The market was way overvalued to begin with. Because it’s rigged. They bailed the system out in 2008. They won’t be able to this time. It’s over. A new day is coming. If you don’t have your assets in your possession, you’re fucked. Originally Posted by bambino
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Tariffman claims he has brought in trillions in tariff revenue already.

He's off by quite a bit
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GM asked earlier where the inflation was. It was a bit disingenuous since this was always something thing was going to take time to work it's way through once the tariffs went into place and companies worked through any inventories they had built up in advance.

We know there was a lot of front-loading ahead of Tantrum Day and prior to most tariff implementation. We know larger retailers and many economists started targeting summer to fall with warnings for when things would begin.

We're now seeing wholesale prices posting their biggest surge in the past 3 years. A surprising jump for many. Let's see if this continues and how the markets react.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wh...ation-1cdc1dde

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/14/ppi-...uly-2025-.html
It was more than a bit disingenuous. Either that, or he legitimately has no idea how inflation works. We're now starting to see the correctly predicted price hikes.
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Axios reporting the same.
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/14/tru...fs-economy-ppi

And as Tariffman bashes Goldman, other economists, analysts and folks on Wall Street see higher inflation on the horizon thanks to Tariffman
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/13/as-t...is-coming.html
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ThAnKs FoR aLL tHe HiGhEr pRiCeS, pWesiDeNt trump!

You and your supporters are fucking morons.
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https://www.outlookbusiness.com/econ...s-reaching-300

The insanity continues Originally Posted by HDGristle
Never thought I'd see the day when the President of the United States of America would be actively trying to destroy the United States of America. But here we are.
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Farmers are feeling the squeeze thanks to Trump tariffs and trade wars drying up some of their most important markets

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...climate-change