Its inexplicable: Obama and Biden had the Epstein files for years

I’ll repeat.

This only became a thing because Trump, when asked, told the press that he was going to release the Epstein documents and then changed his mind.

This is a mess of Trump’s own making and has nothing to do with Obama or Biden.

I’ll repeat.

This only became a thing because Trump, when asked, told the press that he was going to release the Epstein documents and then changed his mind.

This is a mess of Trump’s own making and has nothing to do with Obama or Biden. Originally Posted by txdot-guy

But the argument Leftists are making is that Trump was HIDING is OWN involvement with El Jeffe.... Although it is well known that Trump excommunicated him from Mar-a-lago and apparently talked to the FBI about El Jeffe....

SO it REALL DOES have quite a bit to do with Obama and Biden... because if it were true that Trump was blocking the documents to hide his OWN involvement... then why didn't Obama and Biden release the documents?

I mean seems like a sure fire way to take down Trump prior to 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections...

And that only indicates one thing... there's nothing in the documents that substantially harms Trump.

But it probably will harm Israel.

But the argument Leftists are making is that Trump was HIDING is OWN involvement with El Jeffe.... Although it is well known that Trump excommunicated him from Mar-a-lago and apparently talked to the FBI about El Jeffe....

SO it REALL DOES have quite a bit to do with Obama and Biden... because if it were true that Trump was blocking the documents to hide his OWN involvement... then why didn't Obama and Biden release the documents?

I mean seems like a sure fire way to take down Trump prior to 2016, 2020, and 2024 elections...

And that only indicates one thing... there's nothing in the documents that substantially harms Trump.

But it probably will harm Israel. Originally Posted by texassapper

Because no one was doing anything about Epstein until November 2018 when the Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta — who by this point is President Donald Trump’s labor secretary — in arranging his unusual plea deal. The coverage renews public interest in the case.

I’m not claiming that Trump had anything to do with epstein’s crimes. I am saying that the political establishment in Florida and in Washington took this man’s money and refused to treat him like the sex offender he was.

Here’s a good page that shows the timeline of events.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-eps...5a26d27829c188


November 2018: The Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta — who by this point is President Donald Trump’s labor secretary — in arranging his unusual plea deal. The coverage renews public interest in the case.

July 6, 2019: Epstein is arrested on federal sex trafficking charges after federal prosecutors in New York conclude they aren’t bound by the terms of the earlier non-prosecution deal. Days later, Acosta resigns as labor secretary amid public outrage over his role in the initial investigation.

Aug. 10, 2019: Guards find Epstein dead in his cell at a federal jail in New York City. Investigators conclude he killed himself.

July 2, 2020: Federal prosecutors in New York charge Ghislaine Maxwell with sex crimes, saying she helped recruit the underage girls that Epstein sexually abused and sometimes participated in the abuse herself.

Dec. 30, 2021: After a monthlong trial, a jury convicts Maxwell of multiple charges, including sex trafficking, conspiracy and transportation of a minor for illegal sexual activity.

June 28, 2022: Maxwell is sentenced to 20 years in prison.

January 2024: Public interest in the Epstein case surges after a judge unseals thousands of pages of court records in a civil lawsuit involving one of his victims. Almost all of the information was already public and the dayslong document dump proves disappointing to people who hoped it would spill new secrets about wrongdoing by the rich and powerful. But it fuels demands for even more records to be made public.

2024: Trump, who was in office when Epstein was arrested, suggests during the presidential campaign that he’d seek to open the government’s Epstein files.

February 2025: Attorney General Pam Bondi suggests in a Fox News Channel interview that an Epstein “client list” is sitting on her desk. The Justice Department distributes binders marked “declassified” to far-right influencers at the White House, but it quickly becomes clear much of the information had long been in the public domain.

July 7, 2025: The Justice Department says Epstein didn’t maintain a “client list” and it won’t make any more files related to his sex trafficking investigation public.

July 17, 2025: The Wall Street Journal describes a sexually suggestive letter that the newspaper says bore Trump’s name and was included in a 2003 album for Epstein’s 50th birthday. Trump denies writing the letter, calling it “false, malicious, and defamatory.” The next day Trump sues the paper and media mogul Rupert Murdoch.

July 18, 2025: The Trump administration asks a federal court to unseal grand jury transcripts related to Epstein’s case in an effort to put a political crisis to rest.

Lol... every time Mort say he doesn't care, he posts up a storm!

He has already commented 14 times in this thread, more than anyone else including the OP.

Seems like he cares a lot! Originally Posted by lustylad

You selectively quote me out of context juuuust enough so you could misrepresent what I have said throughout these threads....

No matter. I sure don't expect to ever see THAT stop.

But... I am so glad that you care about my posts! You even counted them! Some would call that... obsession. But I will cherish it as "caring!"

Hey Mort - no counting required. Just go back to the Political Forum thread listing page and click on the "Replies" number. A pop-up box will appear. Presto!

(You're welcome!)

Hey Mort - no counting required. Just go back to the Political Forum thread listing page and click on the "Replies" number. Presto! Originally Posted by lustylad

Cool! I did not know it was so simple for someone to..."care" about what someone else posts.

It is very reassuring that you do not have to expend a lot of effort to follow my posts! And trust me... I don't think it is obsessive that you do. I consider it... flattering?

Did a little research and found some interesting facts about this democratic scandal.
R. Alexander Acosta was a fast runner in 20I7. He was on the list of the 100 most influential Hispanics. He was a champion of Medicare prosecuting over $2 billion of theft and cartel leaders for smuggling in 200,000 kilos of cocaine.
On paper, Acosta looked really good.
After the Trump justice department arrested Epstein in 2019 Acosta resigned two weeks later.

Its been said that one "ah shit" wipes out a hundred "atta boys". Acosta had his ah shit with his Epstein deal. I'm surprised no one has been interested in how the deal came about....oh, yeah Trump wasn't involved so the feigned outrage doesn't go that far.

Still waiting on that explanation on previous administrations lack of concern.

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Still waiting on that explanation on previous administrations lack of concern. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

It's coming. Really.

We'll have one for you soon.

I suggest you check back regularly.

Really.

Keep checking.

It's coming.

Be patient.

Check again later.

And tomorrow.

Then ask again if you don't get one.

You might have to remind us.

A few more times.

But we'll get you one.

Really.

Please keep checking.

It's almost done.

But you're gonna have to keep checking back here.

Regularly.

Don't be shy to ask again either.

Redundancy is good.

Not at all trolling.

Fuck 'em if they say it is.

Keep checking back.

That must have taken some time....

It's coming. Really.

We'll have one for you soon.

I suggest you check back regularly.

Really.

Keep checking.

It's coming.

Be patient.

Check again later.

And tomorrow.

Then ask again if you don't get one.

You might have to remind us.

A few more times.

But we'll get you one.

Really.

Please keep checking.

It's almost done.

But you're gonna have to keep checking back here.

Regularly.

Don't be shy to ask again either.

Redundancy is good.

Not at all trolling.

Fuck 'em if they say it is.

Keep checking back. Originally Posted by Mort Watt

if you say so

...Still waiting on that explanation on previous administrations lack of concern. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

That chite right there is hilarious and would probably garner a Silver Medal over in the Comedy Central forum. However, the Gold medal would still go to our very own, multi-time Gold Medal champion in "Mental Gymnastics" with:
"Because no one was doing anything about Epstein until November 2018 when the Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta..."

Sorry about that. While it may seem like only a gnat's azz difference, if even just rudimentary research is used, the winning difference was much larger, kinda like multiple laps ahead of your entry.

As I recall, Jeffy supposedly died on August 10, 2019. Some may remember that that was exactly 3 days after Dr. Kary B Mullis died of a sudden and unknown pneumonia and about 4 months after that (January 2020), F Joe Biden (future pResident AutoPen) accused Trump of being xenophobic for refusing to accept flights from the Chyyyyna, for some odd reason. Most forget that the charges against Jeffy were dropped shortly after August 10, 2019. AmmIrite?

Glossing over the Chyyyna tryst, we can recall that Jeffy was under investigation for some "molesty schtuff" in 2005 in Palm Beach Florida and eventually plead guilty in 2008 and was convicted. Side note: This was at the nascent beginning of the O'Bama-nation years.

So only a matter of an additional 14 years earlier than the claim from our Gold Medal champ. At the risk of traipsing between the Political and Comedy forums, I must also traipse through the Technical forum briefly with:

Hey the Googlie: "before:2006-01-01 jeffrey epstein"

...Well before 2006, Epstein had already begun "molesty schtuff". It was later revealed during Ghislaine Maxwell’s criminal case that Epstein’s abuse of molestees in Palm Beach County started as early as the 1990s, with Maxwell recruiting molestees, including Virginia Roberts Giuffre, whom she picked up while the molestee was working at Mar-a-Lago. Maria Farmer reported Epstein and Maxwell’s abuse to the FBI twice around late August 1996 after being advised by the NYPD to do so, but the FBI did not open an investigation until May 23, 2006—nearly a decade later. During one call, an FBI agent allegedly hung up on her mid-sentence, and no follow-up occurred...

BTW: One may recall, that was around the time Trump booted Jeffy from Mar-a-Lago and why. Regardless, not 2018 or 2019, which I used - when he was purported to have died, as the Jeffy starting point but 1996 or earlier. A whopping 23+ years earlier than claimed.

Now you can see why the Gold has to go to:
"Because no one was doing anything about Epstein until November 2018 when the Miami Herald revisits the handling of Epstein’s case in a series of stories focusing partly on the role of Acosta...",
because that is one super human leap over 2 decades and 12 years of Democrat Presidents and Democrat controlled Congresses.

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Still waiting on that explanation on previous administrations lack of concern. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

It's coming. Really.

We'll have one for you soon.

I suggest you check back regularly.

Really.

Keep checking.....
Originally Posted by Mort Watt

That must have taken some time.... Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

Yeah. I'll have to get back to you on exactly how much later. Right now, I'm busy researching an answer to your question.

Please check back later!

if you say so Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Actually....I didn't yet! But I will. Really.

Please check back later!

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Still waiting on that explanation on previous administrations lack of concern. Originally Posted by Schwarzer Ritter

That chite right there is hilarious.... Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Right! It is. I check back regularly to see if someone else found the answer before I did.

Oh. Speaking of... checking back later...I'm pretty sure you owed me some answers 'bout some pesky data and statistics I asked for in 8-12 threads a short time back.

No?

Didn't think so. But I figured I would ask because I sure AF know not to check back later.

To paraphrase Game of Thrones...the papers are coming. (That didn't take long)