No. myself and others here contend there is no way for an ILLEGAL to pay their fair share. it's IMPOSSIBLE by definition. they get the benefits of a citizen without paying the real fair share of a tax paying citizen. they get more out than they put in no matter how much bread and beer they buy at piggly wiggly. or houses or cars. there is no legal way an ILLEGAL can pay taxes, NONE!.
no matter what you, Democrats or Adam Schiff claim .. illegals are a net drain on the system.
they get more than they put in. yeah it's that simple.
Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid
With your failed parry to my riposte, thank you for confirming to maggies near and far that immigrants put $$$ into goverment coffers without guarantees they will benefit from such.
See? That didn't hurt to admit that my post is correct. I hope this is the cracking in the dike of maggies firm, entrenched mindset to never admit fault/err/responsibility/mistakes.
Well...if you are so certain, you should be able to show us some stats, right?
Originally Posted by Mort Watt
except for...ya know...sales tax 
Love the idea that it's illegal immigrants who aren't paying their fair share. Not billionaires or giant corporations. Pablo at Home Depot is the real grifter.
It'd be funnier if it wasn't so depressing.
Originally Posted by jayjaychrome
Yupper. Sales tax contributes to most all the programs maggies complain immigrants take from (without them contributing *if* we are to believe them.)
This issue is complex. But the statement that illegal immigrants can’t pay taxes is both false and ignorant. Every body pays taxes in the form of tariffs, sales, property taxes, and if they are using a forged SSN in the form of FICA and payroll taxes.
An argument can be made that illegal immigration can cost the taxpayers more in the short run in the form of subsidies like education for their children or snap benefits for their families. But immigrants are incredibly hard workers, they emphasize education for their families, and they are willing to do the work necessary to get their children to succeed.
In the long run immigrants are absolutely a net positive for our country our economy and our society.
So no Democrats aren’t lying.
Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Guess maggies never heard of an ITIN. Wonder where that $$$$ goes?
"Most recent economic assessments in the provided reporting find that unauthorized immigrants have a small net-positive effect on the U.S. economy overall, mainly by expanding labor supply, contributing taxes and GDP, and supporting industries that would otherwise face shortages; several models show deportation or sharp reductions in unauthorized immigration would lower GDP growth by roughly 0.75–1 percentage point in 2025 and raise budget deficits by hundreds of billions over a decade."
https://factually.co/fact-checks/eco...ants-us-561cff
"A persistent narrative in 2025 suggests that immigrants, particularly those without permanent legal status, are a net drain on public resources. A granular analysis of tax revenue data dismantles this myth, revealing that immigrants are significant contributors to the fiscal health of federal, state, and local governments.
In 2022, undocumented immigrants paid an estimated $96.7 billion in taxes."
https://govfacts.org/immigration/the...cas-workforce/
"Economic benefits of illegal immigration outweigh the costs, Baker Institute study shows"
https://news.rice.edu/news/2020/econ...te-study-shows
Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX
Without looking at the links, *my* first reaction is "Than who going to take over the labour in meat packing plants, plant and pick produce, process poultry, construction, all forms menial task that USA citizens refuse to do at pay offered?
*I* think it is more than a "small net positive."
I don't give a fcuk if they are a net economic positive. Are they a net positive for American citizens and the quality of our lives and communities?
It's clear you care more about $$ than people.
Originally Posted by texassapper
Your postings seem to mirror the melange one as he gets more unhinged by the day and his confirming the crude comments he, in the past, made and denied.
Oh for funsies, can you make this same photo but instead use the pictures of victims of school shootings done by American citizens? I promise you will find plenty.....
How about you give a fuck about *ALL* victims of crimes instead of just where the criminals are from?
What is the core message of this photo? "Get rid of illegals and you get rid of the crime they commit, and we'll all be crime free"?
"Every person in this photo collage should be alive...but they were murdered by a person with long hair"
"Every person in this photo collage should be alive...but they were murdered by a man with testicles"
"Every person in this photo collage should be alive...but they were murdered by a pickup truck driver"
"Every person in this photo collage should be alive...but they were murdered by a person who sees prostitutes"
I can do this forever, and I can come up with shitty, logically shaky justifications for each just like you can for yours.
Originally Posted by jayjaychrome
Touche.
