ICE: whistleblower report-we can write our own warrants to enter homes. who needs a judge..

ICE fuckery is as bad or worse than we all guessed. now, an ICE employee can down at his desk and generate his own warrant, no judicial oversight needed. is that how checks and balances are supposed to work in the land of the free and the home of the brave?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews...3fid=129436766

and there goes the 4th Amendment, and the Bill of Rights more generally, under Trump's gestapo regime. welcome to America the police state. now we have the fox watching over the henhouse and policing his own conduct..

the new policy is to be presented to agents orally but not in writing. gee, i wonder why that is..

thoughts?

Here ya go...write your own administrative warrant...

https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/fi...205_SAMPLE.PDF


8 CFR § 1241.32 - Warrant of deportation.
CFR

§ 1241.32 Warrant of deportation.
A Form I-205, Warrant of Deportation, based upon the final administrative order of deportation in the alien's case shall be issued by a district director. The district director shall exercise the authority contained in section 243 of the Act to determine at whose expense the alien shall be deported and whether his or her mental or physical condition requires personal care and attention en route to his or her destination.

The Turd Reich, goose stepping into your hometown.

All for the greater glory of der glorious Scheissfuhrer.

Any defense of this, boys?

Here ya go...write your own administrative warrant...

https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/fi...205_SAMPLE.PDF


8 CFR § 1241.32 - Warrant of deportation.
CFR

§ 1241.32 Warrant of deportation.
A Form I-205, Warrant of Deportation, based upon the final administrative order of deportation in the alien's case shall be issued by a district director. The district director shall exercise the authority contained in section 243 of the Act to determine at whose expense the alien shall be deported and whether his or her mental or physical condition requires personal care and attention en route to his or her destination. Originally Posted by RX792P

That wouldn't be a warrant. What they are writing up is equivalent to a Probable Cause Affidavit.

A probable cause affidavit is a formal, sworn statement made by a law enforcement officer. It provides the factual basis needed for a judge to issue an arrest or search warrant. This document explains why the officer believes there is sufficient evidence to justify the arrest or search.


So every entry into a house that has been done without a judge's warrant has been illegal??

Per the ABC linked article

Traditionally, ICE agents have needed a warrant signed by a judge in order to enter the home of someone suspected of being in the U.S. illegally. However, the guidance allegedly given by ICE in May suggests they can rely on administrative warrants, which are authored by officials within the Department of Homeland Security -- and in most cases by ICE agents.

The memo

"Although the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has not historically relied on administrative warrants alone to arrest aliens subject to final orders of removal in their place of residence, the DHS Office of General Counsel has recently determined that the U.S. Constitution, the Immigration and Nationality Act, and the immigration regulations do not prohibit relying on administrative warrants for this purpose," the May 12, 2025, memo signed by Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons

A probable cause affidavit is a formal, sworn statement made by a law enforcement officer. It provides the factual basis needed for a judge to issue an arrest or search warrant. This document explains why the officer believes there is sufficient evidence to justify the arrest or search.


So every entry into a house that has been done without a judge's warrant has been illegal?? Originally Posted by 69in2it69

Without exigent circumstances I would hope so. Else what good is the fourth amendment to the constitution? What would keep the state from searching and seizing anything that they like from your home?

Here's the entire whistleblower report - https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-memo-1-21-26/
The memo starts on p17.

The ICE thugs have to try writing their own warrant as no self respecting judge will issue one to them.

elg……

The ICE thugs have to try writing their own warrant as no self respecting judge will issue one to them.

elg…… Originally Posted by elghund

right. diy search and seizure warrants. like, wtf..

and in a man's home no less, which is his castle.

there's a reason Jefferson insisted on a Bill of Rights before he signed off on the rest of the Constitution. King George III left a bad taste in the mouths of the Anti-Federalists, better described as pro-democracy and civil rights advocates..

right. diy search and seizure warrants. like, wtf..

and in a man's home no less, which is his castle.

there's a reason Jefferson insisted on a Bill of Rights before he signed off on the rest of the Constitution. King George III left a bad taste in the mouths of the Anti-Federalists, better described as pro-democracy and civil rights advocates.. Originally Posted by pxmcc

Notice how none of the maggies here will comment on what they would do if this happened to them. Especially the complete immunity which they are gung ho about.

I think LE doesn't need a warrant to pick up someone who already has been convicted of a crime and already has a open deportation order signed by a judge.

This wouldn't happen to me as I am not in violation of immigration laws and have never been guilty of anything other than maybe exceeding the speed limit in West Texas.

Oh . . . once in the early 1970s, I got pulled over for a broken tail light on my VW. I had longish hair back ten so I.m sure that some sort of profiling was in play. In the course of this interaction, I was frisked. It was winter in Michigan and I was wearing a ski jacket big enough to hide a howitzer in a shoulder holster (I had none). The officer told me to get the tail light fixed, and I went on my way.

... The Illegals don't have the same rights as the regular citizenry.
That's problem #1 for the Illegals.

... Nor do Illegals have the right to NOT comply with the requests
of yer police personnel and ICE agents.

... Just SHOW yer papers... Show yer Work-Visa.
Show yer ID.. ... WHY is that so difficult?

... OF COURSE the ICE AGENTS can justify their-own warrants.
IF there's ALREADY a Deportation Order for the fellow in question.

... It's surely all a rather a proper process, mates.
... Collecting those Illegals who are subject for Deportation.

#### Salty

... The Illegals don't have the same rights as the regular citizenry.
That's problem #1 for the Illegals.

... Nor do Illegals have the right to NOT comply with the requests
of yer police personnel and ICE agents.

... Just SHOW yer papers... Show yer Work-Visa.
Show yer ID.. ... WHY is that so difficult?

... OF COURSE the ICE AGENTS can justify their-own warrants.
IF there's ALREADY a Deportation Order for the fellow in question.

... It's surely all a rather a proper process, mates.
... Collecting those Illegals who are subject for Deportation.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

NaCl-y my good sir from the land down under, here are the facts:

Based on recent reports and 2025-2026 policy memos, ICE administrative warrants are not strictly limited to only those with active, final deportation orders, though individuals with final orders of removal are a primary target for these operations.

Key details regarding ICE warrants:

Target Scope: While a 2025 memo highlighted that agents can enter homes using administrative warrants for people with final orders of removal, ICE also uses administrative warrants (Form I-200) to arrest people suspected of violating immigration laws, which includes those without lawful status who may not yet have a final, active deportation order.

Types of Warrants: ICE uses two main types of civil administrative warrants:

Form I-205 (Warrant of Removal/Deportation): Used for individuals who already have a final order of removal.

Form I-200 (Warrant for Arrest of Alien): Used to arrest individuals suspected of violating immigration laws.

Targeting Priorities: ICE generally targets those with pending criminal cases, prior criminal convictions, final orders of removal, or those deemed a threat to public safety or national security.

Recent Policy Shifts: As of January 2026, internal documents indicated that ICE instructed agents that they could use administrative warrants to forcibly enter homes to arrest people subject to removal.

Important Legal Context:

Administrative warrants are issued by ICE officials, not by independent judges, and traditionally do not grant authority to enter private spaces without consent. The recent guidance, allowing agents to enter homes using only these administrative documents, has faced significant legal scrutiny regarding Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

... The Illegals don't have the same rights as the regular citizenry.
That's problem #1 for the Illegals.

... Nor do Illegals have the right to NOT comply with the requests
of yer police personnel and ICE agents.

... Just SHOW yer papers... Show yer Work-Visa.
Show yer ID.. ... WHY is that so difficult?

... OF COURSE the ICE AGENTS can justify their-own warrants.
IF there's ALREADY a Deportation Order for the fellow in question.

... It's surely all a rather a proper process, mates.
... Collecting those Illegals who are subject for Deportation.

#### Salty Originally Posted by Salty Again

Better advice

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights