Trump sounds like Putin…..

elghund's Avatar
“You don’t do a ceasefire when you’re obliterating the other side. They don’t have a navy. They don’t have an Air Force,” he continued.
“They don’t have any spotters. They don’t have anti-aircraft. They don’t have radar, and their leaders have all been killed at every level,” he said.
Trump’s comments come as the U.S.-Israeli war in Iran enters its third week.


https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-no-ceasefire/

Sounds like Putin echoing from a few years ago, saying Ukraine had no chance.

elg….
Yssup Rider's Avatar
Trump has fucking botched this so badly. Even his MAGAdoodles can’t be supporting this lawless, fascist clown anymore.

Can they?
Diaper Don and dipshit Pete need to go, how many Americans are going to have to die to feed their egos.
lustylad's Avatar
Sounds like Putin echoing from a few years ago, saying Ukraine had no chance. Originally Posted by elghund
How about giving us the full & exact quote from Putin, along with the date, so we can draw our own conclusions?

You know... like this:

"We will not accept a cease-fire."

- Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, 3/20/26

(Oops! Is Araghchi echoing Putin, too?)
elghund's Avatar
How about giving us the full & exact quote from Putin, along with the date, so we can draw our own conclusions?

You know... like this:

"We will not accept a cease-fire."

- Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, 3/20/26

(Oops! Is Araghchi echoing Putin, too?) Originally Posted by lustylad
Deflection. Go look your own data up.

elg…
lustylad's Avatar
Deflection. Go look your own data up. Originally Posted by elghund
Don't be ridiculous. You started this thread. How should I know which Putin quote you had in mind? I can't read your mind. It's your "data", not mine.

And how is my asking you to support what you claim in your own thread "deflection"? Answer - it's not. It's directly on-topic and on-point.

Am I wrong to take your threads seriously? Tell me you're just trolling and I'll stop. Otherwise please show me the Putin quote.
elghund's Avatar
Sigh…..

Here are key quotes and themes from Putin regarding winning the war:
On Certainty of Victory
"We believe in you and our victory," Putin said in a New Year’s message to Russian troops, reiterating that the military will be victorious.

"Victory will be ours," he has frequently stated, emphasizing that "almost all along the line of contact our armed forces... are improving their positions".

"The future of Russia is in the hands of its multi-ethnic people... the goals set will be achieved, the security of our Motherland will be reliably guaranteed".

On the Nature of the War
"In Ukraine, we are acting surgically, very carefully, so that... well, it's clear, isn't it? This is not a war in the direct, modern sense of the word," he stated in December 2025, suggesting a measured approach.

"Not only do I believe I saved [Russia], I believe that we've moved back from the edge of the abyss," he said regarding his decision to launch the invasion.

"Wherever a Russian soldier sets foot is ours," he stated, signaling an expansive view of Russian territorial gains.

On War Aims and Duration
"There will be peace when we will achieve our goals," Putin has stated, defining these goals as the "de-Nazification, de-militarization and a neutral status" of Ukraine.

"Our one regret is not taking action sooner," he said, expressing that in hindsight, he would have started the war earlier, noting Russia is now "better prepared".

On the West and Negotiations
"If Europe suddenly wants to start a war with us and starts it, then it would end so swiftly for Europe that Russia would have no one left to negotiate with," he stated regarding Western involvement.

"The ball is in the hands of our Western opponents... in this case, first and foremost, their European sponsors," regarding the lack of a peace deal, suggesting he will not accept terms that do not secure Russian victory.

On Imperial Goals
"I consider the Russian and Ukrainian peoples to be one people. In this sense, all of Ukraine is ours," he declared at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum
Precious_b's Avatar
How about giving us the full & exact quote from Putin, along with the date, so we can draw our own conclusions?

You know... like this:

"We will not accept a cease-fire."

- Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, 3/20/26

(Oops! Is Araghchi echoing Putin, too?) Originally Posted by lustylad
I'd rather see someone from that spineless family of draft dodgers step up and do military service for this country against the people you want quotes from.