The Epstein files have been released!!!

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Nobody trusts anything trump's DOJ is releasing in March 2026. Everything was to be released, by law, last December. By now, they've had three months to scrub and manipulate the files to trump's liking. It's all bullshit, and not to be trusted.

trump is clearly, and obviously, guilty. Originally Posted by jayzee43
Its public record released well before Trump became POTUS.

“Trump slammed Jeffrey Epstein about two decades ago, claiming “everyone has known he’s been doing this”, a former Palm Beach police chief claimed.

Michael Reiter’s account of a conversation with Trump, contained within the justice department’s release of 3m Epstein files, dramatically contrasts with the US president’s public statements. After Epstein’s arrest in July 2019, Trump said “I had no idea” when asked if he knew about his former friend’s abuse of teenage girls.

Reiter, who retired in 2009, confirmed to the Miami Herald on Monday that he was the person whose name was redacted from this document. The former investigator recounted this conversation during an October 2019 FBI interview.

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Reiter said this conversation took place in July 2006; around this time, allegations against Epstein were growing. He told the FBI that Trump telephoned him and remarked: “Thank goodness you’re stopping him, everyone has known he’s been doing this.”


Reiter was the West Palm police chief during Epstein’s first arrest. Not involved with the current DOJ. The local DA confirmed it as well.
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By "everyone" that includes him. And yet he apparently didn't have the balls to do anything about it personally.

I wonder why.
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By "everyone" that includes him. And yet he apparently didn't have the balls to do anything about it personally.

I wonder why. Originally Posted by HDGristle
Trump did. BTW, who’s “everyone”? That’s a Jazzer lingo. And yours.
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He didn't do shit, except do his damndest to try to cover this all up.

Everyone was his word choice, btw.
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He didn't do shit, except do his damndest to try to cover this all up.

Everyone was his word choice, btw. Originally Posted by HDGristle
It’s amazing how you don’t trust your own eyes and hears.
Here's an inconvenient fact that the NY Times and CNN have rarely reported on about Virginia Giuffre: She was paid $15,000 for f##king Prince Andrew!
(So, what does that make her?)
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Here's an inconvenient fact that the NY Times and CNN have rarely reported on about Virginia Giuffre: She was paid $15,000 for f##king Prince Andrew!
(So, what does that make her?) Originally Posted by victoryformation
Over paid. Just like hookers in Pittsburgh
Over paid. Just like hookers in Pittsburgh Originally Posted by bambino
Since when is a dragooned sex slave flown on a private jet, picked up by a stretch limo and paid $15,000 for a quickie?
There's a very good reason why Virginia Giuffre was MIA during the Maxwell trial!
Could you imagine if THAT inconvenient fact emerged during cross examination?
(If I was a mendacious storyteller ...I'd be deathly afraid to take the stand, too!)
Since when is a dragooned sex slave flown on a private jet, picked up by a stretch limo and paid $15,000 for a quickie?
There's a very good reason why Virginia Giuffre was MIA during the Maxwell trial!
Could you imagine if THAT inconvenient fact emerged during cross examination?
(If I was a mendacious storyteller ...I'd be deathly afraid to take the stand, too!) Originally Posted by victoryformation
There's a very good reason trump will never testify, either. Because he's clearly, and obviously, guilty.
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I have no problem with a HO of legal majority being able to ply her trades and charge for insertions or for fornications- but if she's not of a majority age- then the culprits involved, those who participated or facilitated, and even those who knew but kept tight lips should be held accountable just as if they were the person doing the miss-deeds themselves. Aiding and abetting, and threats of blackmail are equally bad offenses to add to the mix. Trump is at least one of the above, if not in cahoots in more than one.

Lets not forget the testimony that taints the conflicting reasons that Trump "threw Epstein out". According to some testimony- Epstein wasn't even a member at Mar-a- Lagoon. It was the fact that Trumpy fucked Epstein over on a PALM BEACH real estate deal- when it was told to him in trust by Epstein that the two had their falling out. You can't kick out a non member who stopped coming to your shitty golf club, just cause you screwed them over in deal----such a deal maker.

His legacy is this: Fucking over anyone in the process of a deal or appearance of common ideology for his own gain- including the American Ppl, and mostly those blind RedHat patrons who kiss his ass, while he secretly hates every damned one of you.
trump did. BTW, who’s “everyone”? That’s a Jazzer lingo. And yours. Originally Posted by bambino
Thanks for confirming that you don't even read the stuff you copy and paste here.

There's a very good reason trump will never testify, either. Because he's clearly, and obviously, guilty. Originally Posted by jayzee43
I find it exceeding difficult to believe that during her 3 years as a dragooned sex slave ... she never had an opportunity to escape from her captures!
And then, when she has an opportunity to testify against her enslaver ... she doesn't even bother to show up!
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I find it exceeding difficult to believe that during her 3 years as a dragooned sex slave ... she never had an opportunity to escape from her captures!
And then, when she has an opportunity to testify against her enslaver ... she doesn't even bother to show up! Originally Posted by victoryformation
Has anyone commenting about Virginia Giuffre actually read her book or do we have a bunch of uninformed opinions being bandied about?

Maybe the memoir she published has the answers to these questions.
Has anyone commenting about Virginia Giuffre actually read her book or do we have a bunch of uninformed opinions being bandied about?

Maybe the memoir she published has the answers to these questions. Originally Posted by txdot-guy
I have not read her (ghost-written) NY Times bestseller!
But anyone out there feel free to answer any of these 3 questions!

1) During her 3 years of sex slavery under Epstein and Maxwell... why didn't she ever try to escape? 3 years, didn't she ever run into a member of law enforcement!

2) Why was someone who had a front row seat to the whole Epstein/Maxwell enterprise ... and wrote a book about it ... why was she a no-show during her capture's trial?

3)Why was the trafficked sex slave ...a recruiter herself?

Anyone out there ... please feel free to proffer any plausible answers to these 3 questions!
I have not read her (ghost-written) NY Times bestseller!
But anyone out there feel free to answer any of these 3 questions!

1) During her 3 years of sex slavery under Epstein and Maxwell... why didn't she ever try to escape? 3 years, didn't she ever run into a member of law enforcement!

2) Why was someone who had a front row seat to the whole Epstein/Maxwell enterprise ... and wrote a book about it ... why was she a no-show during her capture's trial?

3)Why was the trafficked sex slave ...a recruiter herself?

Anyone out there ... please feel free to proffer any plausible answers to these 3 questions! Originally Posted by victoryformation

Based on your other posts about her, I doubt you're really asking this in good faith, but I'll give it a go just on the off-chance that you are.

1) “Why didn’t she escape?”
It usually isn’t as simple as just walking away. In a lot of these situations, people are controlled through a mix of pressure, manipulation, dependence, and fear — not just being physically held somewhere.

From her own accounts, she was pretty immature (can't mention age due to forum rules) and not exactly in a position to fully understand what she was getting pulled into at the time. Once you’re in that environment — especially with money, housing, travel, and powerful people involved — leaving isn’t always a straightforward option the way it might seem from the outside.

2) “Why wasn’t she at the trial?”
She actually gave a lot of statements over the years, including depositions and civil cases.

In a criminal trial, it’s ultimately up to prosecutors who they call to testify in person. Not everyone ends up on the stand — sometimes prior testimony is used, and sometimes it’s just a strategic choice about how to present the case.

3) “Why was she also a recruiter?”
This is something that comes up a lot in these kinds of situations. People can end up being pressured into bringing others in, sometimes to normalize what’s going on, sometimes to stay in good standing, sometimes just because they’ve been conditioned over time. There are numerous examples of this.

It doesn’t make the situation less exploitative — it’s often part of how the whole thing keeps going.

You don’t have to take everything at face value, but those explanations line up pretty closely with how these situations are usually described.

Since when is a dragooned sex slave flown on a private jet, picked up by a stretch limo and paid $15,000 for a quickie?
There's a very good reason why Virginia Giuffre was MIA during the Maxwell trial!
Could you imagine if THAT inconvenient fact emerged during cross examination?
(If I was a mendacious storyteller ...I'd be deathly afraid to take the stand, too!) Originally Posted by victoryformation
So your argument is that if money or perks are involved, it can’t be exploitative?

That’s… a pretty convenient definition.