The power of words

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http://youtu.be/Hzgzim5m7oU Originally Posted by initial d

Powerful message d, but I would hope that we as a progressive society wouldn't allow a blind man to beg, but that we would teach him to endure and thrive.

A person can only be taught if they truly want to learn. Too many people would rather take a handout than a hand-up.

A person can only be taught if they truly want to learn. Too many people would rather take a handout than a hand-up. Originally Posted by gooose

Yes, especially those that don't deserve it like Corporate America. You know, now that Mitt Romney says "corporations are people too" and SCOTUS has classified Corporate America as having personhood (Citizens United), maybe we should start investigating Corporate America for that welfare fraud republicans are always crying about.

Yes, especially those that don't deserve it like Corporate America. You know, now that Mitt Romney says "corporations are people too" and SCOTUS has classified Corporate America as having personhood (Citizens United), maybe we should start investigating Corporate America for that welfare fraud republicans are always crying about. Originally Posted by Rodram

You mean the same corporate america that hires people to produce goods that others buy? The same corporate america that pays the majority of the taxes? Instead of wasting more time and taxes investigating, simply the tax code and end all tax loopholes and subsidies. Republicans aren't the only culprit in this.

You mean the same corporate america that hires people to produce goods that others buy? The same corporate america that pays the majority of the taxes? Instead of wasting more time and taxes investigating, simply the tax code and end all tax loopholes and subsidies. Republicans aren't the only culprit in this. Originally Posted by gooose

Yes, the Corporate Welfare Socialist State that's making record profits and sending our jobs to other countries, that Corporate Welfare Socialist State.

Lets talk about those "job creators" you're referring to and where those jobs are at gooose:

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and now let's see what Forbes reports about Koch Industries and those "jobs":




Hmm, looks like record profits to me and all the while shit-canning 13,000 American jobs. In a bad economy and with a "President that's destroying America" just where is all that money coming from?

Let's say that Koch Industries stands by itself in profits and the Corporate Welfare Socialist State went down the shitter because of a bad economy and President Obama has been successful in destroying the "free market".
What does Fortune 500 think about their newest list for 2011? This should really piss everyone off!


"All told, the Fortune 500 generated nearly $10.8 trillion in total revenues last year, up 10.5%. Total profits soared 81%. But guess who didn’t benefit much from this giant wave of cash? Millions of U.S. workers stuck mired in a stagnant job market. [...] Nevertheless, we’ve rarely seen such a stark gulf between the fortunes of the 500 and those of ordinary Americans."
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...companies-2011


All the while, corporate tax revenue as a percentage of GDP is lower than it has been in years:




How about Exxon between 2005-2008 deep into the Bush "job creating" tax cuts? Let's take a look:


In 2004, Congress approved a tax repatriation holiday to bring back domestic production(jobs) which would allow multinational corporations to bring money they have stashed offshore back to the U.S. at a dramatically lower tax rate and instead, this is what happened:

"Back in April, researchers at the University of Kansas released a report showing that for every dollar corporations spent lobbying for a particular income tax break in 2004, they saved $220 in taxes. The goal of providing the tax break — as expressed by the corporation’s lobbyists — was that the money saved would be invested in domestic productions. Congress believed that this is where the money would go, and thus the tax break — which allowed corporations to repatriate overseas earnings at far below the normal tax rate — was granted.
Well, analysts at the National Bureau of Economic Research took a look at what the corporations actually did with the money and it turns out that domestic investment was not high on the list:
Now the most detailed analysis of what actually happened — using confidential government data as well as corporate reports — has estimated what happened to the $299 billion companies brought back from foreign subsidiaries. About 92 percent of it went to shareholders, mostly in the form of increased share buybacks and the rest through increased dividends. There is no evidence that companies that took advantage of the tax break…used the money as Congress expected."


gooose, granted, the tax code is too complex but in doing that you can bet your last dollar that Corporate America will be at the table and driving the amendments in their favor. This is why the free market needs to be reigned in and regulated.

Oracle: 39k US employees
GE: 133k US employees
Caterpillar: 47k US employees
Koch: 67k US employees
Exxon: 80k US employees
Solyndra: 0

The companies you cited employs over 460k Americans.

Businesses is all about profits and being cost effective so why blame them for making a profit and shipping jobs overseas when the cost of business here in the US is skyrocketing from over regulating. Boeing cant even start a damn factory in a right to work state without the government getting involved.

Hey gooose, after I read your response, I had to wait for the Prozac to kick in before I answered!! LMAO! Same thing happen to you?!?

I'm sorry. I thought you can handle a little honest debate but i guess not. Once again you resort to trying to belittle the ones that disagree with you. You are not worth my time anymore. Debate is only for the open minded. Peace out.

I'm sorry. I thought you can handle a little honest debate but i guess not. Once again you resort to trying to belittle the ones that disagree with you. You are not worth my time anymore. Debate is only for the open minded. Peace out. Originally Posted by gooose

It was a joke numb-nuts! I was joking that we were probably driving each other crazy and that we both were needing Prozac.