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Yes. 17 Democrats voted with the majority.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...furious-probe/
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 03:10 PM
thats fine

now they get to decide if its civil or criminal ... since Issa is already on record saying there was no criminal intent ... that must leave civil on the table. That should play out in how many years? and at the end of the day prove what? Republicans will go to any length and spend countless hours and taxpayer dollars to bring attention to a civil suit ???

ranks right up there with ball players that juice up
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In retrospect, it really doesn't matter. The government now effectively has complete control. Even if Holder is investigated and prosecuted, it is a minor matter at this point. A distraction, actually. We are no longer a free country, so what the hell does it matter if the government is giving guns to thugs to use to kill us?
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 03:28 PM
In retrospect, it really doesn't matter. The government now effectively has complete control. Even if Holder is investigated and prosecuted, it is a minor matter at this point. A distraction, actually. We are no longer a free country, so what the hell does it matter if the government is giving guns to thugs to use to kill us? Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

nobody has proven the 2 guns found at the scene killed anyone ..

and , 5 atf agents have said gunwalking never took place ... stay tuned
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CBJ7, whatever it is you're smoking, I want some.
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 03:42 PM
CBJ7, whatever it is you're smoking, I want some. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

have you read anything that said THIS gun or THAT gun killed the atf agent? ... I havent. The reports simply say 2 guns were FOUND ...


the testimony of the 5 agents that said gunwalking never took place surfaced yeterday .. if its true what then?

a wise man once said ... "stay tuned"
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 03:48 PM
have you read anything that said THIS gun or THAT gun killed the atf agent? ... I havent. The reports simply say 2 guns were FOUND ...


the testimony of the 5 agents that said gunwalking never took place surfaced yeterday .. if its true what then?

a wise man once said ... "stay tuned" Originally Posted by CJ7




Quite simply, there's a fundamental misconception at the heart of the Fast and Furious scandal. Nobody disputes that suspected straw purchasers under surveillance by the ATF repeatedly bought guns that eventually fell into criminal hands. Issa and others charge that the ATF intentionally allowed guns to walk as an operational tactic. But five law-enforcement agents directly involved in Fast and Furious tell Fortune that the ATF had no such tactic. They insist they never purposefully allowed guns to be illegally trafficked. Just the opposite: They say they seized weapons whenever they could but were hamstrung by prosecutors and weak laws, which stymied them at every turn.
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  • Doove
  • 06-28-2012, 03:54 PM
Waiting for the first political ECCIE theorist to suggest that Obama pushed for the Supreme Court ruling on health-care to come out prior to the election so that it could be timed to come out at just the opportune time for it to overshadow the F&F investigation.

Who might it be?
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 04:01 PM
Saddam was smart enough to punk Bush into a war (snick)


and the dems are smart enough to repeatedly bitch slap the republicans in the face months before an election


isnt that unconstitutional marxist socialist ?

gotta be
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I think the SCOTUS acts when it wants to, I doubt if they can be pushed. They are at least as arrogant as the other two branches.
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 04:36 PM
I think the SCOTUS acts when it wants to, I doubt if they can be pushed. They are at least as arrogant as the other two branches. Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

because rightwing judges issued their constitutional opinions and ruled the opposit direction rightwing-nuts wanted them to makes them arrogant?


who knew?
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LOL! No, they have been arrogant for a long time. Even when they are right, which is becoming less and less often, they are an arrogant branch of government.
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 05:08 PM
yeah, ok.

but have you seen any evidence that said either of those 2 guns FOUND at the scene actually killed that agent?
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You know, I'll bet that's in the documents! Let's look at them and see!
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  • CJ7
  • 06-28-2012, 05:28 PM
didnt think so ... is that why you casually interjected the guns were used to kill americans?


nonetheless


the guns werent walked by the atf, and didnt kill anyone, Issa said no crimes went down ... the entire basis for the republican "need to know" is out the window


on the day the SC blew the shorts off the GOP, Issa and company make history by holding congress in contempt, then have their asses handed back to them by a reporter and 5 atf agents


pardon me but ...



















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