Ladies ... United?

I hear there is one provider who can provide you with birthdates, social security number, license plate number, name of your first born child,wife's maden name, and the winning lottos numbers if you ask. Originally Posted by dirty dog

I'm not touching that one, ill leave responses up to the KC regs, I'm just a innocent ole visiter

I don't have nothing :/ Originally Posted by OLindsay

Ok Hun, ill be sure to send it again. Thx a bunch

@Lovelyallison, you have some great credentials on other sites! If you need a reference for any of these ole KC guys feel free to contact me girl. And I hope KC treats ya good!

A lot of guys don't have references because they don't see providers often enough to build up a reputation. Other guys see providers more often, but they are ones who don't care about or check references (massage parlors, strip clubs, some Backpage girls, some agencies). Other guys don't see local ladies all that often, and out of town references are more difficult. Originally Posted by KCQuestor

This is true. I have tried to be newbie friendly because hey we all start somewhere! Somebody had to TOFTT when I was a newbie! They just for the most part end up wasting my time.

@Lovelyallison, you have some great credentials on other sites! If you need a reference for any of these ole KC guys feel free to contact me girl. And I hope KC treats ya good! Originally Posted by Gemma34

Thanks girly

You're welcome! Beautiful showcase too. Have you gents checked it out?! Y'all need to

Well thanks babe! You've got a pretty nifty showcase yourself. Love the tattoos!

This is true. I have tried to be newbie friendly because hey we all start somewhere! Somebody had to TOFTT when I was a newbie! They just for the most part end up wasting my time. Originally Posted by Lovelyallison

I guess I don't follow--how did they waste your time?

By scheduling appointments and not showing up. Showing up with way less than needed. Calling and trying to negotiate a .40 meeting. Just a few examples.

I'll always give a reference to a verified provider here on ECCIE. Feel free to contact me if you need one.

IWhatever the reason may be, I think it's easy enough for a client to contact the provider he is considering using as a reference, and saying can I use you as a reference, and if so, do you prefer I give your phone number, email address, or website?

If a provider asks me for a reference, I say, "I'm not sure, but I'll check and get back to you if that's ok." No implication of yes or no. Then find out from the guy if he needs the vouch. Or if he's already given me the heads up, I can give her the immediate yes.
Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise

Would you say that being on P411 it is implied that a provider may contact your okays?

By scheduling appointments and not showing up. Showing up with way less than needed. Calling and trying to negotiate a .40 meeting. Just a few examples. Originally Posted by Lovelyallison

Oh, you mean stupid. Lol That costs us all and generally can't be fixed. There is no pill, no cure.

+1 I'm lucky if I get to play more than once a year, so my references are older than most of the ladies here want.

A lot of guys don't have references because they don't see providers often enough to build up a reputation. Other guys see providers more often, but they are ones who don't care about or check references (massage parlors, strip clubs, some Backpage girls, some agencies). Other guys don't see local ladies all that often, and out of town references are more difficult. Originally Posted by KCQuestor

Would you say that being on P411 it is implied that a provider may contact your okays? Originally Posted by BigMikeinKC

I would say no. Some may think it's ok, but if a provider gave you an ok, I assume she means you're an ok client to see. If I wanted or needed to contact any of them, I would just ask you first. I would only contact your okays after getting your permission to do so.

I would say no. Some may think it's ok, but if a provider gave you an ok, I assume she means you're an ok client to see. If I wanted or needed to contact any of them, I would just ask you first. I would only contact your okays after getting your permission to do so. Originally Posted by PleasantSurprise

Here is where I would respectfully disagree in theory.

when you have a provider give you an okay... you, as a hobbyist, are saying " if you want to know if I am a good guy, this provider has seen me and is saying I am safe to see." However, what is implied is that since you are using this provider's okay, that it is okay for a provider to contact your okay for more info.

This is what happens when you use a provider as a direct reference. We email or call your reference to see if you are safe and is there any more info that we need to know to be able to give you better service. I like to know a man's size, both girth and other things! LOL I like to know about how the provider feels about him and if she has any advice on how to treat him. Example... One guy was very professional in his emails but I found out he likes for the provider to talk dirty to him right away! Now, I am not that kind of person usually, but knowing this going in, I was able to surprise him and he loved it!!

Bottom line is that we providers talk to each other about references, it is more than he is a good guy, have fun! And, it is to the benefit of the hobbyist!

So, do I contact P411 okays? Absolutely... And only once have I had a lady say "why did you contact me... I gave him an okay!" Of course, it could be because of the way I ask for information that I get great cooperation!

The best thing about all this... is that we can handle our business the way we think is best... and if it works for you, then stick with it! The other great thing is that when we share ideas like in this thread.. everyone learns a little bit!

Smooch!

Lea