Lets be honest here ....

Sloan...guess that means your account wasn't compromised, rather "enlightened" huh? Sorry, had to put a little humor into this...as you sound very sad and angry. And, just so you know...my comments aren't to flame you...they're just my thoughts.

I completely respect your decision to make changes and choices for "your" life...and wish you all the happiness you deserve...I honestly do. However, what you choose for "your" life...and what made "you" feel ugly, in this business, doesn't necessarily mean you have all the answers, nor the right, to judge anyone else for their decisions.

Unless you have gone to every home, and know for a fact, what is happening, in every marriage, you have no right to make random judgements against the men of this community.

I will give you this...you're probably correct about the many *rats and weasels,* in this hobby; however, don't be naive or deceived...if you think a church and all the self-righteous, finger-waving do-gooders, are any better than what you think reside here.

I know, from "personal" experience, about all the "born again, self-righteous" criminals...as I used to call them parents. Wore the mask of "righteousness" and got away with being criminally cruel.

There's no pain that you have posted here that I haven't experienced...so, I think I have a right to state my opinion. I've been on the other end...and now on this end...and had the heart to forgive and forget. Grown women know the difference between *love* and *lust,* as well as, what happens in relationships that go south.

Women are not stupid Sloan...you know that. I believe many women, just close their eyes, or even glad not having to deal with issues they're not interested in. People's lives go separate ways through the years...and some of these good gents stick it out anyway for the sake of the family.

If you want to judge us...go on ahead, but remember one thing...as you're growing in your Christian faith...that you will be greatly judged by your actions, and your burden will be heavier than ever before. And, you will learn that if you are an honest Christian...that the life of a sinner isn't much different...and isn't self-righteous.

Jesus forgave even a harlot...the worst of the worst for that time...and didn't shame her. He trusted her so much...that she was the "first" person he chose to show himself, after rising from the dead.

If Jesus forgave even a whore...and didn't denounce her...why would you be so cruel and heartless, to say such unkind things, to people who thought so highly of you?
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Sloan, let's not forget: no one forced you to spread your legs or bend over. If you want out....then get out. Retire once and for all. Delete your membership on this site.
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If it was actually bitterness then it would be relevant beautiful but its the truth and we all know it. Acceptance or not, denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Again you ladies are amazing and give so much, turning a blind eye to make money isnt worth it and we all know it. When the time comes you will to agree.

For now kiss that ass make that money and dont use that conscience that God gave us. It will all come down hardcore in the end, it always does. None of us can run or hide from the truth before it rams us like a brick wall in our face.

When that wife calls you crying, how will you feel then? When you walk in on your wife or SO reading your reviews and emails how will that effect you seeing her crushed in Tears...

Food for thought, the truth is all it is and its the truth. There is no way to bullshit or hide behind it. I have always been blunt and kept to myself and away from the drama. I do this now because I can and because its the truth and I dont even want to come back to the hobby to have some random dude invade my body.

SCREW THAT! I set the example for how others treat me and I am standing up for myself for the rest of my life. It starts here and now. When you ladies do it for yourself you will all see you are worth so much more. You are all so beautiful and so amazing.
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Sloan, let's not forget: no one forced you to spread your legs or bend over. If you want out....then get out. Retire once and for all. Delete your membership on this site. Originally Posted by MARTIAL ARTIST

I sure did once and now if any one of you attempted to touch me, I'd probably have to bust you in the throat to be honest. It makes my skin crawl thinking about the things I allowed in the past. But no longer and that is exactly how it is.

These ladies are human and beautiful, more so than any of 99.99% of the men on this site or hobby. They will see it for what it is when they are ready to. For now, the truth sets me free.

So deal with it! If it doesnt apply to you then dont worry about it. Bottom line.
i will be jacking off to your show case tonight since its still up!
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I sure did once and now if any one of you attempted to touch me, I'd probably have to bust you in the throat to be honest. It makes my skin crawl thinking about the things I allowed in the past. But no longer and that is exactly how it is.

These ladies are human and beautiful, more so than any of 99.99% of the men on this site or hobby. They will see it for what it is when they are ready to. For now, the truth sets me free.

So deal with it! If it doesnt apply to you then dont worry about it. Bottom line. Originally Posted by SloaneMacallan
Wow, seriously...what a waste. Just looked at your showcase and DAMN!!
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If your not married or with not someone then disregard this message.
I am glad that I can recuse myself from your new-found revelation of morality!
***I originally posted this under "is time relevant" where this discussion seems to have started. But I feel this thread is a better home for it :-)***

I am new to this site, so I apologize if I am stepping on any toes...

Sloane, I am so very sorry that you have been hurt, no one deserves to have their past thrown in their face (whether by karma or another person). I never wish, on anyone, the pain and heartbreak that comes from certain relationship trials.

I think that every profession has those bad eggs, the ones who give everyone else a bad name. In the case of both providers and hobbyists , I am sure most of us can think of several names right off the top of our head that fit this description. But I think that marking the entire profession as a horrible entity is like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

I am a provider and I personally have had relationships (outside of the profession ;-) that were openly...well, open. We were not monogamous because that is what worked for us. If he wanted to go see a provider, or simply someone else, I didn't have an issue with it- as long as he was safe and didn't bring anything home to me. Many of the individuals I am acquainted with professionally have marriages that are conducted almost as a business transaction. The wives and husbands have very different lives, neither of them really caring what the other does as long as they are discrete and safe. Monogamy in these relationships seems to be more about keeping up appearances rather than actual emotional ties.

With men who are in conventional marriages, most of the time they spend a good deal of effort telling me how much they love their wives. My belief is that most people are not biologically cut out for monogamy- it is a long tedious road in which we expect our significant other to be our everything (our best friend, our business partner, our lover, our caretaker, etc.) and that is a tough order to fill. If I can take one or two of those jobs off the wife's shoulders for a few hours, perhaps their marriage will last longer than the national average because she is not feeling the burden of wearing so many hats.

But, with that said, I am sure that some individuals I have seen had wives sitting at home, waiting for them, worrying about them. Some of them may have drained their bank accounts to support their hobby, leaving their significant other in debt and really pissed off. I, in no way condone this, but there is no way for me to screen how they get the money. That action, their actions, are on them. It is their responsibility to uphold their code of ethics and sense of morality (which is different for every person), I cannot be responsible for that or moderate that.

It is analogous to blaming fast food for all the overweight individuals in our society, or blaming bars for the alcoholics. The supply cannot be blamed for the issues associated with the demand. If everyone stopped going to fast food restaurants (or at least ordered healthier items) or no one drank anymore, the supply would disappear. The same goes for this profession. It is up to the hobbyists to determine what works best for them and then find a provider who fits that need.

I hope you never experience any hurt like this again. I hope that you don't really regret everything in your past in regards to this profession, it has helped shape who you are today (and I am sure you are a wonderful human being).
Well Sloan...I'm not a little kid anymore...and I'm not here to take away a husband from his wife. And, if it weren't for reputable providers...that know the rules of the hobby...where do you suppose these men would end up?

You can't play "God" and "make" a man fly straight...if he's not happy at home. And, that goes both ways...some wives too...it's not just the men. If you think men are the only ones out here playing...you've got another thing coming!

As for the hobbyists you're saying are "draining" their bank accounts to hobby. I don't know who you chose to have as your clients, but I know, whoever I see only see me when they have a budget for my time...and that's money "they" earned, so I'm not going to be concerned with idiots that don't plan ahead.

I know that sounds rather cold...but, it's really not my job to track anyone's bank account. If they can't afford to hobby...then, that's their deal...not my business to worry about it!

I worked for Corp America for over 30years...made jack crap for the blood, sweat, and tears. Put up with sexual harrassment, you name it, I've been there.

Lots of women...for decades have been going out and looking for Mr. Right...in all the wrong places...9 girls out of 10, I'll bet...ended up sleeping with Mr. Wrong the very first night...and, over and over again. They get wined & dined...and sex after the evening's done...and that's acceptable? I mean, a man buys drinks...and these days, that's pretty darn expensive...dinner, not cheap either...and movies, that's definitely an expensive date these days...all of it for the opportunity of having sex with their date, at the end of the night, without a 100% sure bet...yet, that's acceptable? I don't get it. (lol)

Anyway...hope you find your luck Sloan. And, just in case, I have a large fire extinguisher and bridge building kit...just in case you end up needing one! (wink, wink!)
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  • 11-10-2010, 12:12 AM
Sloan...

If you feel that this place and these people are not for you then please submit a request to terminate your membership here to websupport@eccie.net.

Leave your judgments and sermons out of it.
Sloan, ultimately you r speaking much truth. We all have our trials/tribulations/addictions/and lessons 2 learn. I get a kick out of all the lingo
used here like "hobby" for example...lol as if it is a real hobby or something.
Nevertheless......I found a new hobby and it aint model trains. Peace 2 u
This is SLOAN Mischief
please make sure you do NOT confuse ME with her since we are both addressed by the name "Sloan".

Im getting emails asking me if im really retiring or not.

So for the record..This thread is NOT about "Sloan" Mischief.

thanks
None of these men around here give honestly two shits about us as human beings. Originally Posted by SloaneMacallan
I guess that's why I've given hundreds in return for nothing to my ATF -- once, when she was too sick with the flu to play, and facing doctor bills for herself and kids; and once, to help her with moving expenses after a psycho stalker forced her out of business in SA.
might you wish to take down your showcase.
Yawn... boring typical male trying to rationalize betraying their Marriage Vows, kinda disgusting if you think about it. Glad I dont partake any longer. Originally Posted by SloaneMacallan
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I think its rather funny who takes offense to things and who doesn't. I was speaking my peace of mind and if you get offended well you are the only one who can make you feel that way.

Get free, I am not bible thumping here I am saying the truth and its the bottom line.

I think Braveheart said it all Freedom Baby! Ha ha ha, Freedom to not give two shits about what you men really think, freedom to actually speak my mind and say to the ones who do act like jerks and so forth. Ha ha ha bitterness not hardly, call it a high respect for my body now. Not anger on any level actually. Nor am I bitter, ha ha ha. I am free to be me and not give a care that anyone is the hobby is going to get all butt hurt over what I have to say. THANK GOD FOR THAT!

A Shame hell no, not in this lifetime or the next. Its called pride and knowledge that I don't have to demean myself for anyone for any amount of money. Please allow most of these hobbyist to tell you pretty lies. I said MOST NOT ALL, hello there. Think about it. Lies, Deception, Fake BS, Fantasy Land.. That's all it is... Fantasy fake lies that are based on more lies. Turning a blind eye, NO MORE for me.

Relationships based on lies are worthless. I never said all the men were like that but we all know the most of these cheating, lying, fake, bullshitting, hiding behind a computer wanna be Rico Suave mo fo's are nothing we would even think twice about in our normal daily lives. I think I have told more men in the past 2 months to piss off in the gym than I can count.

Bla bla bla bla, again rationalize whatever you want to. Everyone knows the truth or else you wouldn't be hiding. I am happy as a damn clam that I dont have to anymore.

Already submitting for deletion just going out with a bang as I previously said. I want to Burn this Bridge and never ever look back. I deserve the best and I have it in my life now. Why would I want Alpo when I have Beluga Caviar now. Just as I know each and every one of you beautiful women deserve way better as well. One day you will figure it out and be like damn, acceptance is a killer and eye opening.

Its cool with me, we all have to face the truth sometimes the more you fight it the closer home it hits. That just how life is, get defensive all you want, you just know its hitting a nerve there or else you wouldnt have anything to say.

BURN BABY BURN!!!

Go ahead and jack to the pics, I know you wont have your hands touching me ever again. I really was tired of taking bleach showers and baths anyway, its just so not good for the skin.