Analyzing the great Bambino!!!!

All-Time MLB Top 100
* Bold denotes active player
100. Barry Larkin
99. Phil Niekro
98. Jim Thome
97. Adrian Beltre
96. Charlie Gehringer
95. Duke Snider
94. Bryce Harper
93. John Smoltz
92. Roy Halladay
91. Ryne Sandberg
90. Ivan Rodriguez
89. Shoeless Joe Jackson
88. Willie Stargell
87. Carlton Fisk
86. Roberto Alomar
85. Jim Palmer
84. Paul Molitor
83. Roy Campanella
82. Eddie Collins
81. Mike Piazza
80. Robin Yount
79. Hank Greenberg
78. Chipper Jones
77. Vladimir Guerrero
76. Cap Anson
75. Rod Carew
74. Juan Marichal
73. Willie McCovey
72. Justin Verlander
71. Al Kaline
70. Harmon Killebrew
69. Ozzie Smith
68. Manny Ramirez
67. Brooks Robinson
66. Cal Ripken Jr.
65. Max Scherzer
64. Eddie Mathews
63. David Ortiz
62. Mel Ott
61. Carl Yastrzemski
60. Whitey Ford
59. Miguel Cabrera
58. Steve Carlton
57. Pete Alexander
56. Dave Winfield
55. Reggie Jackson
54. Lefty Grove
53. Oscar Charleston
52. Clayton Kershaw
51. Ernie Banks
50. Bob Feller
49. Frank Thomas
48. Nap Lajoie
47. Warren Spahn
46. Ichiro Suzuki
45. Wade Boggs
44. Tony Gwynn
43. George Brett
42. Nolan Ryan
41. Satchel Paige
40. Jimmie Foxx
39. Yogi Berra
38. Jackie Robinson
37. Joe Morgan
36. Tris Speaker
35. Josh Gibson
34. Pete Rose
33. Bob Gibson
32. Sandy Koufax
31. Mariano Rivera
30. Albert Pujols
29. Johnny Bench
28. Derek Jeter
27. Roberto Clemente
26. Alex Rodriguez
25. Christy Mathewson
24. Randy Johnson
23. Rickey Henderson
22. Tom Seaver
21. Cy Young
20. Rogers Hornsby
19. Frank Robinson
18. Mike Schmidt
17. Roger Clemens
16. Joe DiMaggio
15. Mike Trout
14. Greg Maddux
13. Ken Griffey Jr.
12. Honus Wagner
11. Pedro Martinez
10. Stan Musial
9. Walter Johnson
8. Barry Bonds
7. Mickey Mantle
6. Lou Gehrig
5. Ted Williams
4. Ty Cobb
3. Hank Aaron
2. Willie Mays
1. Babe Ruth

as a matter of fact, wilt possibly could do that.

dont you have somewhere else to go to act like a karen? Originally Posted by oldman2525

So you're sayin' that Wilt could dump 100 on Rudy Gobert, Joel Embiid and Jaren Jackson?
Yeah ...okay!

All-Time MLB Top 100
* Bold denotes active player
100. Barry Larkin
99. Phil Niekro
98. Jim Thome
97. Adrian Beltre
96. Charlie Gehringer
95. Duke Snider
94. Bryce Harper
93. John Smoltz
92. Roy Halladay
91. Ryne Sandberg
90. Ivan Rodriguez
89. Shoeless Joe Jackson
88. Willie Stargell
87. Carlton Fisk
86. Roberto Alomar
85. Jim Palmer
84. Paul Molitor
83. Roy Campanella
82. Eddie Collins
81. Mike Piazza
80. Robin Yount
79. Hank Greenberg
78. Chipper Jones
77. Vladimir Guerrero
76. Cap Anson
75. Rod Carew
74. Juan Marichal
73. Willie McCovey
72. Justin Verlander
71. Al Kaline
70. Harmon Killebrew
69. Ozzie Smith
68. Manny Ramirez
67. Brooks Robinson
66. Cal Ripken Jr.
65. Max Scherzer
64. Eddie Mathews
63. David Ortiz
62. Mel Ott
61. Carl Yastrzemski
60. Whitey Ford
59. Miguel Cabrera
58. Steve Carlton
57. Pete Alexander
56. Dave Winfield
55. Reggie Jackson
54. Lefty Grove
53. Oscar Charleston
52. Clayton Kershaw
51. Ernie Banks
50. Bob Feller
49. Frank Thomas
48. Nap Lajoie
47. Warren Spahn
46. Ichiro Suzuki
45. Wade Boggs
44. Tony Gwynn
43. George Brett
42. Nolan Ryan
41. Satchel Paige
40. Jimmie Foxx
39. Yogi Berra
38. Jackie Robinson
37. Joe Morgan
36. Tris Speaker
35. Josh Gibson
34. Pete Rose
33. Bob Gibson
32. Sandy Koufax
31. Mariano Rivera
30. Albert Pujols
29. Johnny Bench
28. Derek Jeter
27. Roberto Clemente
26. Alex Rodriguez
25. Christy Mathewson
24. Randy Johnson
23. Rickey Henderson
22. Tom Seaver
21. Cy Young
20. Rogers Hornsby
19. Frank Robinson
18. Mike Schmidt
17. Roger Clemens
16. Joe DiMaggio
15. Mike Trout
14. Greg Maddux
13. Ken Griffey Jr.
12. Honus Wagner
11. Pedro Martinez
10. Stan Musial
9. Walter Johnson
8. Barry Bonds
7. Mickey Mantle
6. Lou Gehrig
5. Ted Williams
4. Ty Cobb
3. Hank Aaron
2. Willie Mays
1. Babe Ruth Originally Posted by bambino

To name just one: Barry Bonds would have been a world beater ...in any era!
Babe Ruth ... not so much!
(Don't take my word for it!)
"Babe Ruth is Daniel Vogelbach!"
Brandon Tierney from WFAN "BT and Sal" ... weekdays 10 -2, 102.9 FM.
(Brandon Tierney is the most knowledgeable and insightful sports-talk-radio host ... in the country!)

To name just one: Barry Bonds would have been a world beater ...in any era!
Babe Ruth ... not so much!
(Don't take my word for it!)
"Babe Ruth is Daniel Vogelbach!"
Brandon Tierney from WFAN "BT and Sal" ... weekdays 10 -2, 102.9 FM.
(Brandon Tierney is the most knowledgeable and insightful sports-talk-radio host ... in the country!) Originally Posted by victoryformation

Not without roids. And I watched him play in Pittsburgh when he wasn’t roiding. If Ruth didn’t pitch for 4yrs he would’ve hit over 800 dingers. Ruth would hit more Home runs in a season than entire teams. Nobody has ever came close to doing that.

Not without roids. And I watched him play in Pittsburgh when he wasn’t roiding. If Ruth didn’t pitch for 4yrs he would’ve hit over 800 dingers. Ruth would hit more Home runs in a season than entire teams. Nobody has ever came close to doing that. Originally Posted by bambino

Barry Bonds was a generational talent (with or without steroids)!
Barry Bonds was intentionally walked 120 times in 20004!
(That's how awesome he was!)

Barry Bonds was a generational talent (with or without steroids)!
Barry Bonds was intentionally walked 120 times in 20004!
(That's how awesome he was!) Originally Posted by victoryformation

When he was in Pittsburgh he was pretty good, not great. He choked in the playoffs. Dave Parker was a better all around player back then. Far better arm. Clemente was better than both of them. Neither dominated the game as much as Ruth. Run along now.

The longest home run in MLB history is Babe Ruth's 575-foot blast hit in 1921. In the Statcast era, the longest recorded home run is Nomar Mazara's 505-foot shot in 2019.
FOX Sports baseball360.com

Nobody’s been close to that. Not even the roided out workout freaks of today. Originally Posted by bambino

Yeah... I'll betcha The Great Bambino hit the 575 ft tape job ... off of a rubber-armed pitcher, trying for a complete game, whom he's seen 4 times in the same game ... lobbing 85 mph BP "fastballs"!
There's NWIH The Great Bambino tees off on Aroldis Chapman ...after he loosens him up early in the count with some 100 mph chin music!
(There's NWIH the Babe puts up his #s against the likes of an Aroldis Chapman!)
NFW!
Today's one-man, one-out, 6'4" 230 lbs Dominican 100 mhp flamethrowers ... would make Babe Ruth look like a mere mortal!

You’d be hard pressed to find any athlete in any sport that dominated like Ruth. There’s multiple examples of the Babe with more HRs in a season than other teams combined. Here’s a snippet.

Ruth out-homered multiple full teams in 13 of his 22 seasons as a position player (1918–1935). The most extreme examples include:
• 1920 (New York Yankees, 54 HR): This was Ruth’s breakout year after joining the Yankees from the Boston Red Sox. His 54 home runs surpassed the totals of all seven other AL teams and eight National League (NL) teams, totaling 15 teams league-wide. For context, the AL team totals that year were: St. Louis Browns (50), Philadelphia Athletics (44), Chicago White Sox (37), Washington Senators (36), Cleveland Indians (35), Detroit Tigers (30), and Boston Red Sox (22).

You’d be hard pressed to find any athlete in any sport that dominated like Ruth. There’s multiple examples of the Babe with more HRs in a season than other teams combined. Here’s a snippet.

Ruth out-homered multiple full teams in 13 of his 22 seasons as a position player (1918–1935). The most extreme examples include:
• 1920 (New York Yankees, 54 HR): This was Ruth’s breakout year after joining the Yankees from the Boston Red Sox. His 54 home runs surpassed the totals of all seven other AL teams and eight National League (NL) teams, totaling 15 teams league-wide. For context, the AL team totals that year were: St. Louis Browns (50), Philadelphia Athletics (44), Chicago White Sox (37), Washington Senators (36), Cleveland Indians (35), Detroit Tigers (30), and Boston Red Sox (22). Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

There's no doubt that Babe Ruth was dominating and put up big #s!
(But, what was the caliber of pitcher(s) ... he was facing?)
It was, most certainly, not an Aroldis Chapman type of flamethrower!)
Babe Ruth faced a lot of tired arms in his career ... throwing 85 mph BP "fast balls" (especially in the late innings)!
But, if you plugged him in an MLB lineup today ... what kind of player would he be?
Why would Brandon Tierney (one of the most knowledgeable, respected and highly paid sports radio talk show hosts in the country say: In today's game,
"He's Daniel Vogelbach!"

If Ruth played today he would actually be better.

His workout routine of hot dogs and booze would be replaced with working out, diet, steroids/HGH, and all of the modern day training and analytics.

Babe would hit a 600 foot HR at some point.

If Ruth played today he would actually be better.

His workout routine of hot dogs and booze would be replaced with working out, diet, steroids/HGH, and all of the modern day training and analytics.

Babe would hit a 600 foot HR at some point. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Not to mention charter flights instead of busses and trains for travel.

If Ruth played today he would actually be better.

His workout routine of hot dogs and booze would be replaced with working out, diet, steroids/HGH, and all of the modern day training and analytics.

Babe would hit a 600 foot HR at some point. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Fair point!
That's why it's difficult (but not impossible) to compare players from different eras!
The influence of steroids is relative!
?
i.e. If a roided-up Roger Clemens is pitching to a roided-up Barry Bonds ... there is no discernable advantage for either player ... it's essentially a level playing field!
No?

Agree that two roided players cancel out each other.

I think you’re going down the argument that today’s athletes are better than at the time of Ruth. IMO the reason today’s athletes are better is because of the training, nutrition, analytics, etc. That wasn’t a thing back then.

Ruth would be become a much better conditioned athlete today than he was in his prime. In other words the modern day Babe would cancel out the advantages of today’s athletes you are calling out. Don’t forget about today’s juiced baseballs as well.

Agree that two roided players cancel out each other.

I think you’re going down the argument that today’s athletes are better than at the time of Ruth. IMO the reason today’s athletes are better is because of the training, nutrition, analytics, etc. That wasn’t a thing back then.

Ruth would be become a much better conditioned athlete today than he was in his prime. In other words the modern day Babe would cancel out the advantages of today’s athletes you are calling out. Don’t forget about today’s juiced baseballs as well. Originally Posted by Green_Mountain

Valid points to be sure!
Conditioning, diet and improved training techniques ... would most certainly have been of benefit to him!
No doubt!
It would have mitigated the advantages of the of the pitchers I have mentioned ... to a degree!
But the question is: During the course of his career how much did Babe Ruth fatten up his stats ...simply by having the good fortune of facing the same rubber-arm pitcher 4 times in the same game?
(A rubber-arm pitcher throwing 85 mph (no late movement) BP faceballs ...trying to finish off his 30th complete game of the season!)
The Bambino would never face such a favorable hitters scenario in modern MLB!
How many of his carrer stats ... benefited from such a scenario?

First off, not every player was using roids. Bonds was and he was cheating the game and the players that were clean. Ruth didn’t cheat and still has the longest home run in MLB history. 100 years and counting.