How to get and give a reference - yes I KNOW this has been discussed

Well, I spent 5 years in Denver and never had an issue...just pick up the phone and play time nor did these type discussions ever come up on TOB which is pretty much the main board in Denver. My time in Miami was well before any of this online stuff and never had an issue down there..I've never been with a SW and don't have that desire.

As far as P411, at one time I had basic plus 3 though 2 OK's were several years old and 1 was recent...well, that wasn't good enough for several providers here in KC...they were still paranoid because of the old OK's and I confirmed this was the reason with the P411 admin gals, so I got pissed and cancelled the account. I now have a new one and +1 but really haven't used it much.

I don't know, it might just be me and KC...bad vibes Originally Posted by Dondo7

I lived in Denver as well 6 yrs ago and do agree it was easier to book a date w/o verification. But times have changed and we now have tools and methods that make it alot easier to get verified and see providers and they us with less risk of being robbed, hurt, or LE...
The hobby has evolved for the better and is getting better.
I dont blame these girls at all for wanting references...I would

EVEN IN MY GIGILO DAYS....when MS Elena use to pimp me...right MS ELENA?...lol

For the record, it isn't paranoia if they're really after you. Originally Posted by FireSerpent

Im nOT paranoid but...FS Do you know something I dont...Are they after me....OR is it MALWOODY??

CRAP....Im outta here!!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if you're giving P411 as your reference and you haven't been using it in such a long time that you are getting rejected for it, then it sounds like you need to contact ladies you've seen in the past and get some more recent OK's.

Ladies see that as a red flag... They read that as, "he's been hobbying for how long now and no one wants to give him an OK since when?! Oh hell no I'm not seeing this guy... he might be crazy and that's why he doesn't have any OK's."

KC is actually pretty easy to set up appointments in. You make a call, say how much time you're looking for and when you're looking for it, then, if they ask, you give them your screening info... who you are, what provider reference info you have, how that provider would know you from other providers and when you saw her last. Most ladies, if they're smart, only take references from someone you've seen in the last 90 days or less. If you're not a frequent player, then that can be kind of problematic unless you have P411 and get OKs from the ladies you've seen.

This isn't rocket science. It is a simple repeatable process which guarantees that you'll have success.

Im nOT paranoid but...FS Do you know something I dont...Are they after me....OR is it MALWOODY??

CRAP....Im outta here!! Originally Posted by bigdeal

Actually, Malwoody is after you. I didn't want to say anything until everything was in place but... if you see a hot girl laying under a box with a stick propping it up... don't fall for it!

Actually, Malwoody is after you. I didn't want to say anything until everything was in place but... if you see a hot girl laying under a box with a stick propping it up... don't fall for it! Originally Posted by FireSerpent

haha...that malwoody is tricky like that...thanks for heads up!~

Crap guys.......I gotta weigh in here......I was in Chicago 4 years ago and a provider asked me for "verification info"......well shit I was horny and thinking with my wrong head, and I gave all my info to her. She calls back and said if you don't leave a $150 in cash at the front desk of your hotel, I am calling your house and job.

Dumb bitch....she called my house and job.....................I erased both messages remotely and decided never again to put all my info on the line.

Until......................... crap........................3 days ago I was sooooo hot for a local provider I gave up my info to get screened. Everything is cool..

I guess my point is never give info to a provider who can't be verified as well. Just stop being cheap and visit some of the established expensive girls who can give you a credible ok?

Hahaha BD yes, I use to pimp you back then. You still owe me money, gimme my money bitch!!


FS said it best both times, but I especially love the......its not paranoia if they are truly after you.

The paranoia quote is from Catch-22 by Joseph Heller.

Crap guys.......I gotta weigh in here......I was in Chicago 4 years ago and a provider asked me for "verification info"......well shit I was horny and thinking with my wrong head, and I gave all my info to her. She calls back and said if you don't leave a $150 in cash at the front desk of your hotel, I am calling your house and job.

Dumb bitch....she called my house and job.....................I erased both messages remotely and decided never again to put all my info on the line.

Until......................... crap........................3 days ago I was sooooo hot for a local provider I gave up my info to get screened. Everything is cool..

I guess my point is never give info to a provider who can't be verified as well. Just stop being cheap and visit some of the established expensive girls who can give you a credible ok? Originally Posted by hearingguy

Don't have to be expensive but other than that...........yes. Fucking exactly.

I am with sinsofthe flesh. Normally I dont have a problem but after the 6 hours of trying to get someone screened last night (he was not being forthcoming with ANY info just his first name and number)

Some of us have alot to lose if we arnt careful.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I would think any guy who would not be forthcoming with ANY info beyond his first name and number would not be worth 6 minutes of time, in terms of screening.

Just a thought, JayceeRivers.

Don't have to be expensive but other than that...........yes. Fucking exactly. Originally Posted by SillyGirl

Wow....thanks Silly Girl......Gee sort of turns me on to have you agree so vociferously.

Instead of expensive I should have said "established". Thanks for the correction.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I would think any guy who would not be forthcoming with ANY info beyond his first name and number would not be worth 6 minutes of time, in terms of screening.

Just a thought, JayceeRivers. Originally Posted by vkmaster

I do my utmost to respect privacy. He didnt pass my screening of course but at least I do TRY to understand. there are plenty of men here that no more then first name and a reminder of conversation and/or location and date seen will get my memory running. of course I only see about 3 clients a week and most are repeats so hard to forget *laughs*

@Jaycee....I appreciate your above post!!!!!

@Jaycee....I appreciate your above post!!!!! Originally Posted by vkmaster

ME TOO !!